Soul Crystal Contents (Av2 & 3)
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Guardian
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written Sunday, January 1 2006 09:23
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I believe I have finally found some good creatures for my soul crystal: 1. Rakshasa 2. Ur-Basilisk 3. Gaddika 4. Haakai The problem is, both the Haakai and Gaddika seem to have the same amount of spells and very little difference between magic resistance. Which should I replace and with what should I replace it? I am in the Ziggarut, which has plenty of Spawned Fungi. And I'm keeping the Rakshasa. Magic immunity is invaluable. Any other Soul Crystal advice is welcome. [ Sunday, April 02, 2006 14:17: Message edited by: Zephyr Tempest. ] -------------------- -Zephyr Tempest, your personal entertainer Posts: 1779 | Registered: Monday, December 9 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, January 1 2006 11:21
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I'd personally keep Gaddika, just because it's more fun to summon an old enemy to fight for you. As for replacing the haaki, I'd go with a Shambler or a Spawned Fungus, personally... those pack a punch and have some nice immunities. I didn't know you could capture a Rakshasa, though. I thought their ridiculous magic resistance prevented that. Then again, I suppose I just remembered it incorrectly. -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, January 1 2006 11:24
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Maybe an Empire Dervish would be a good idea, or an Vahnatai Blademaster... -------------------- You know, why the Sliths are green - because of their scales. Maybe you know why some slith eyes were once red - ´cause the demons, which led them were red. But why are the eyes of the Slith Lord Followers red? Because they see the remains of their enemies always before the battle begins! Posts: 179 | Registered: Friday, November 25 2005 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Saturday, March 25 2006 14:57
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I know this topic is VERY old, but a new question has come up. I just had a Simulacrum Limoncelli battle a Dervish, and well...Limoncelli didn't do much before he faded. So, the new question is...should I replace Limoncelli with a Dervish? edit: Perhaps resistances could decide this. Could anyone list them? [ Saturday, March 25, 2006 15:56: Message edited by: Zephyr Tempest. ] -------------------- -Zephyr Tempest, your personal entertainer Posts: 1779 | Registered: Monday, December 9 2002 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Saturday, March 25 2006 15:52
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Replace away. It's your game. Do whatever works best for you. Dikiyoba. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Sunday, April 2 2006 14:19
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Behold! The topic rises once again! Okay, now I'm a bit of a ways into Avernum 3, and I have the following abominiations' souls trapped in a Soul Crystal: 1. Alien Slime 2. Drake 3. Demon 4. Basilisk Since I'm currently retrieving the Orb of Thralni, most of these guys are pretty good. But, the Drake and Demon have the same spells, both have good resistances and hitpoints. But, which one has more hitpoints and which one is a better spellcaster? I could find out the hard way, but it would take a while to find both, so I'm wondering if anyone here already knows. -------------------- -Zephyr Tempest, your personal entertainer Posts: 1779 | Registered: Monday, December 9 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, April 2 2006 14:36
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Go with the demon. Harder to kill, more resistant to everything, better melee (should it ever come to that), and it seems that they have more spells. I'm not sure, but a Drake Lord might be better than either of them. -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, April 3 2006 04:25
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Drake Lord, no doubts. While reading the post by Zephyr I caught myself trying hard to remember the correct name of the beast. Thanks to Ephesos, it's Drake Lord. I replaced my Drake in soul crystal and never regreted. -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Monday, April 3 2006 10:29
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Okay, now I found an Ogre Mage and got his soul. Now I have a Demon AND an Ogre Mage. But...which one is better? The Ogre Mage doesn't seem to have Slow, but I've certainly seen Demons use it, but it seems the Ogre Mage is more resistant to magic. -------------------- -Zephyr Tempest, your personal entertainer Posts: 1779 | Registered: Monday, December 9 2002 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, April 3 2006 10:52
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General Advice: If you still have the Alien Slime, lose it. The creature is pathetic. Maybe replace it with a Giant Slug? Drakes, Demons, and Ogre Mages serve about the same purpose. Rather than having more than one slot used for basically the same creature, you may want to just keep one of the fire-immune (Demon/Drake) creatures and get something good at taking melee damage (Golem/Dervish) Basilisks are actually pretty weak. You'll probably want to pick up an Ur-Basilisk as soon as possible; I don't remember for sure, but I think the higher SP cost is worth it. -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Monday, April 3 2006 12:07
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Drakes are actually a bit vulnerable to fire damage. Well, I also captured a Troglodyte Khazi, but they mostly just use Priest spells, even though I think I've seen they have some Mage spells (I'll go check that out). Anyway, I've also seen that Ogre Mages are immune to Ice damage (or at least awe-inspiringly resistant), but the ONLY creatures I've EVER seen that use Ice damage are (Ice and normal) Drakes breathing cold, and Baby Dragons using Ice Lances? So, the Demon really IS better for a Mage monster, isn't it? Anyway, I'm going to go find a Dervish. [ Monday, April 03, 2006 12:08: Message edited by: Zephyr Tempest. ] -------------------- -Zephyr Tempest, your personal entertainer Posts: 1779 | Registered: Monday, December 9 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, April 3 2006 13:16
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I think that Khazis could cast up to Divine Retribution... granted, it wasn't very good in A3. Ogre mages are incredibly inferior to demons. Of the two, demons have far better resistance to magic and fire, and demons do some impressive melee damage. I can never remember... are rakshasi immune to all levels of Capture Soul or not? -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Monday, April 3 2006 13:27
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In A2, I managed to capture a Rakshasa with Capture Soul 3. So, I believe it is possible in A3. I wonder if they're immune to slowing in A3, too. Well, I'm now going after Elhioc. Can his soul be captured? Oh, and is it worth capturing the soul of a Spine Beast? There are still some around who have teamed up with ogres. -------------------- -Zephyr Tempest, your personal entertainer Posts: 1779 | Registered: Monday, December 9 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, April 3 2006 13:47
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Go for a Dark Wyrm instead, though that'll take a while to find. Spine Beasts have a very uneven record in melee, in my experience... -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, April 3 2006 16:43
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quote:There's some Dark Wyrms in the Giant Caves, so this should be an opportune moment. -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, April 4 2006 04:14
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quote:Dark Wyrm is a great villain, but only when fighting with you, because there are only 4 persons. Fighting a group of monsters with more than 6-7 magic-posessing creatures decreases the advantage of Wyrm with his single shooting. Compare it with Haakai or Drake Lord I choose the last. Summoning and multidamage spells (like fireblast, etc.) are much more effective in a tough campaign. For me, leastwise. -------------------- 9 masks sing in a choir: Gnome Dwarf Slith Giant Troll Troglo Human Nephil Vahnatai "If the mask under mask to SE of mask to the left of mask and to the right of me is the mask below the mask to the right of mask to the right of mask below me is the same, then who am I?" radix: +2 nicothodes: +1 salmon:+1 Posts: 203 | Registered: Tuesday, March 14 2006 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, April 4 2006 06:04
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If you already have a powerful spell caster, a dark wyrm can come in handy. It has its darkness breathing, can absorb a lot of damage, and has reasonable melee capability. In A3 I used mine to kill Rhentar-Ihrno. -------------------- Überraschung des Dosenöffners! "On guard, you musty sofa!" Posts: 627 | Registered: Monday, March 7 2005 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, April 4 2006 13:28
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You actually got a summoned dark wyrm to breathe darkness? It never would for me :mad: -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Sunday, April 9 2006 10:19
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Just a few more questions... Ok, I currently have... 1. Empire Dervish 2. Troglodyte Khazi 3. Demon 4. Dark Wyrm (needed to use editor to had endurance to ge this little nightmare) However, I'll only replace 2 and 3. Perhaps someone could tell me about the quality of... 1. Rakshasa (I know I'll get this one. But who will I replace?) 2. Demon Golem (should it replace the Demon? Or should I go for resistances and melee more since I already know every spell except Cloud of Blades?) 3. Lich Particularly, I would like to know resistances, since all three are fairly rare. I already know Rakshasa are immune to magic (Except a healthy Capture Soul) In other words, 7 potential souls. Any recommendations? Oh, and WHERE do I learn Cloud of Blades? [ Sunday, April 09, 2006 10:23: Message edited by: Zephyr Tempest. ] -------------------- -Zephyr Tempest, your personal entertainer Posts: 1779 | Registered: Monday, December 9 2002 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, April 9 2006 11:39
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Rakshasa are immune to Fire, Ice, and Magic damage. They also manage to cut down just about every melee creature, so go for it if you find one. Demon Golems are like Demons, but without the weakness for Repel Spirit and Ice, if I'm not mistaken. Liches aren't that great. They're undead (and so resistant to ice) but they're also vulnerable to Repel Spirit. The only thing going for them is their higher spell levels, I think. You can learn Cloud of Blades L3 in Blackcrag, according to my hintbook. EDIT: I thought you could get Cloud of Blades L3 from a Stone Circle, but it would seem you cannot. [ Sunday, April 09, 2006 11:44: Message edited by: Bitter Noob ] -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Sunday, April 9 2006 11:48
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Okay, but where could I get it at level one or two, so I could get at Cloud of Blades level 3? But, is it worth trading the Khazi for a Rakshasa, since I'll replace my Demon with a Demon Golem? -------------------- -Zephyr Tempest, your personal entertainer Posts: 1779 | Registered: Monday, December 9 2002 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, April 9 2006 12:49
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Cloud of blades level 2 can be learned from the library in Moon, or from the church of the divine lucre in the holy valley. I would be in favour of replacing that Khazi with a Rakshasa, if possible. -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |