In Avernum 3, how useful are potions, and alchemy?
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Infiltrator
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written Saturday, October 15 2005 23:02
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Does anyone here actually use potions? Strength potions have a nifty regenerative effect, and heroic brew gives you what Divine Warrior used to, but everything else isn't that flash. Spells can substitute potions. Hence, is investing Alchemy worthwhile? -------------------- VIVE LA TAKERS! VIVE LA REBELLION! VIVE LA GHALDRING! Posts: 522 | Registered: Friday, November 15 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, October 15 2005 23:05
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If you intend to get the recipe for Knowledge Brew, hunt down the best sources for the ingredients, and mass produce skill points to make your party even more of a weapon of mass destruction, learn alchemy. Otherwise, don't bother. I always found more potions than I knew what to do with. —Alorael, who usually just piled them neatly in Fort Emergence. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Master
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written Saturday, October 15 2005 23:10
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I always use Alchemy a lot, at least in BoA. There are dungeons were your SP simply isn'r enough, and then you'll have to rely on potions and scrolls. I like potions. They do the some things I can do with spells, yes, but at least I don't use up SP. Sometimes, its also better to use a potions, if you have the feeling, or even a hint, that eventually you'll have to fight something big and ugly. So, yes. I invest in alchemy and also in first aid. Just sometimes, it can be really useful. Something else I uyse potions for: energy potions. Restoring SP when you don't have it anymore or even to little to be able to use it, is vital when fighting (at least for me). I advice you to at least be able to make enrgy potions or energy elixers, because they will help you greatly. -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, October 16 2005 01:09
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think that if you want the same effect as divine warrior did in Avernum 2, the only way to get it in Avernum 3 is through the heroic brew. Whilst a number of the potions are useless with a strong party near the end-game, the brews are of great assistance. A select few of the elixers are also worth your time and effort. If you manage to stockpile enough ingredients, your potion making skill can convert them into a decent source of income, although using them for knowledge brews is usually the smarter choice. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Sunday, October 16 2005 02:45
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I use potions, but I don't make them. There are enough you can buy/find without having to make your own. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Sunday, October 16 2005 07:55
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Hrmm, I guess the question is this: Are you willing to get you Potion Making up to 12-15? Is it worth about 5 Levels' worth of Skill Points to be able to make Elixers and Knowledge Brews at the end of the game, and the occasional MP-restoring potion for the bulk of the game? If you answered "NO" to one or both of the above, it's probably not worth it to invest all the time, coins, and skill points in Alchemy/Potion Making. -------------------- Your training was extensive... "This... is a tree!" "...what's it for?" ...and confusing. ---Avernum 3 Intro Posts: 42 | Registered: Thursday, August 26 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, October 16 2005 09:37
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If you do start making Knowledge Brews, you'll recover your skill point losses very quickly. —Alorael, who is otherwise with Drakey. You'll find more potions than you need, so making other potions is either a waste of time or a waste of ingredients that could be used for more Knowledge Brews. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, October 16 2005 10:13
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I usually only carry 2 healing potions per character and 4 energy per mage. Potions to me aren't all that important. A few healing elixers, a few energy potions, and probably graymold salve, thats all that is good... nothing more, well unless i'm planning on killing everyone in Storm Port of A3 :P Everything else I just pick up on travels, or if I'm low on money and I have too much herbs in my alchemist's inventory, vuala! I get about 7500 gold and more room! Also that 7500 gold goes to a good cause, ARROWS AND WEAPONS! WOOT! I have millions of potions laying in the supply closet and my bedroom in Fort Emergence, need to get rid of them tho... Too many items in there, got no room to store even MORE POTIONS MWHAHAHAHA.... ne ways i think Amaxander is gonna sue me for making him trip in the hallway outside his office, I need more money, :P :P :D And if I ever run out of potions and sp, what I do is this... wait... never thought about that since i've never ran out of potions... [ Sunday, October 16, 2005 15:11: Message edited by: Foley's Body ] -------------------- Bandit: Hey Bob, why aren't we running after them? Archer Bob: Cuz if dose n00bz run dey got no gud ****. Bandit:oh Bob: And that isn't a cave, its a dragon... Posts: 59 | Registered: Saturday, October 15 2005 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Friday, October 28 2005 19:10
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the only potion worth getting is the knowledge brew the rest spell can replace. -------------------- I hate you all Posts: 165 | Registered: Friday, October 28 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, October 28 2005 22:31
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Not quite. Energy potions and elixirs are helpful, although you can survive without them through most of the game. In the Tower of Zkal they're absolutely essential. —Alorael, who hasn't had much trouble fitting potions in Fort Emergence. Potions stack and there aren't all that many different kinds. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, October 29 2005 05:53
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quote:Oh shut up... I am too lazy to just put them in a pile (Its is also harder to find them in a pile... I just now sorted them, energy in Storage room, Healing in the room with the fresh water, strength in a barrack and the rest in my room) -------------------- Bandit: Hey Bob, why aren't we running after them? Archer Bob: Cuz if dose n00bz run dey got no gud ****. Bandit:oh Bob: And that isn't a cave, its a dragon... Posts: 59 | Registered: Saturday, October 15 2005 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, October 29 2005 06:28
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I like hoarding my potions (make a few, keep the ones I find) until boss fights, then distribute them among all my party members so that if someone's nearly dead (especially if there are two people who are nearly dead, or the priest-spell-casting characters are in forcecages or something), they can heal themselves and still have a movement point or two left, instead of having a priest take up his whole turn doing it (if they're not incapacitated, that is). At the levels my A3 characters are currently at, potions heal more HP than healing spells. I also like having lots of energy potions on hand for boss fights, so that my mage(s) can cast huge damage-dealing spells with (relative) abandon. -------------------- A C, an E-flat, and a G walk into the Tower of the Magi. Ambrin walks up to them and says, "Hey! It's the Triad!" Kelner snorts and says, "Pretty minor Triad if you ask me." Posts: 242 | Registered: Thursday, June 16 2005 07:00 |