What is the name of the Avernum world?
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Warrior
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written Saturday, September 17 2005 04:26
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Like the planet we live on is Earth. What exactly do the people of the Empire and Avernum call their planet, or do we not really know? -------------------- "Yeah-- you're right. You christians are far too persecuted nowadays. I mean it. We really should stop feeding you to the lions." --TM "Ancient Blessings" My unfinished (and likely to remain that way) BoA scenario. Posts: 135 | Registered: Tuesday, June 22 2004 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, September 17 2005 04:28
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Ermarian. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, September 17 2005 04:32
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Thats a cool name, was it ever mentioned in the Avernum games or is that something Jeff has said before? Or for all I know it could have been in the Exile games. -------------------- "Yeah-- you're right. You christians are far too persecuted nowadays. I mean it. We really should stop feeding you to the lions." --TM "Ancient Blessings" My unfinished (and likely to remain that way) BoA scenario. Posts: 135 | Registered: Tuesday, June 22 2004 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, September 17 2005 04:37
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No, but the online Exile/Avernum community has been using it for eight years. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, September 17 2005 04:46
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Who created Ermarian then and what caused it to be the accepted name of the Avernum/Empire world? Did a few Exile veterans get together and, by means of forces non-veterans will never understand, come up the name? -------------------- "Yeah-- you're right. You christians are far too persecuted nowadays. I mean it. We really should stop feeding you to the lions." --TM "Ancient Blessings" My unfinished (and likely to remain that way) BoA scenario. Posts: 135 | Registered: Tuesday, June 22 2004 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Saturday, September 17 2005 05:21
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Pretty much, yes. Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Saturday, September 17 2005 08:48
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For the record, I hate the name "Ermarian," and I feel free to consider that purely an Exile thing that doesn't carry over to Avernum, like the Exile timelines that don't work in Avernum because Jeff changed the dates. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Saturday, September 17 2005 12:31
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Aran and I have been able to reconcile the Exile and Avernum timelines and worlds - what in particular are you referring to? And if you don't like it, don't use it. Jeff has managed to go through five games without giving the world a name. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Saturday, September 17 2005 16:03
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quote:Drakey, we've had this conversation at least twice before. Among the things we came up with: the dates given for the order closing the school in VoDT are different in BoE and in BoA. In Avernum, the war with Grah-Hoth was forty years before A1, while in Exile, the same war was apparently longer prior to E1. The list goes on. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Sunday, September 18 2005 02:40
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Yes, but this time (with the aid of your Avernum notes) we've actually finished a timeline from the First Expedition to Avernum 3 that is internally consistent (except for blatant contradictions). -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Sunday, September 18 2005 05:15
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Internally consistent, maybe, but not consistent with both of the series. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 00:14
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Earth. The name is used in Avernum 3 and I believe it may have been carried over from Exile 3, but I have no desire to play through the game again, looking for it. [ Tuesday, September 20, 2005 00:15: Message edited by: Tom ] -------------------- Evil comes in many forms. I am but one of them. Posts: 116 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 00:29
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Might have been a slip. Jeff, after all, is from Earth. :P Side note: Wiki is down right now for technical reasons. I won't be able to fix it till next weekend. -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 00:59
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The Exile series refers to the native language of humans as being English a couple of times as well (a note in the nephil fort in E1 and an obelisk in Vahnatai lands in E2). Don't know if this was fixed/changed for the Avernums. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 01:43
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quote:There was also a Spanish person in Exile I. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 02:20
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quote:What identified him as Spanish - is the word "Spanish" actually in the game? -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Master
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 04:00
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Is there somebody who made complete map of this Ermarian planet? I suppose not, as all the time pieces are being made woth the BoA editor, making it a hell of a job. -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 09:36
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Doing a search in this forums brings up this http://www.wam.umd.edu/~kks/index.html I know there are some annotated maps somewhere, but I can't seem to find them. I've seen them for the entirety of Exile/Avernum and then for Valorim as well. Outside of Valorim, locations get fuzzy and exact positions tend to be difficult. -------------------- "Let's just say that if complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are false'." Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 15:26
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Luz's site has, as far as I know, the most complete set of maps. Avernum Annotated Maps has been down for some time. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 18:31
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Why does the planet require a name? Maybe there is no name. Perhaps they are not even on a planet, a moon maybe. -------------------- The Knight Between Posts. Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 21:30
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If you think about it for a while, you will realize that in a pre-space technology era, it does not make one bit of difference to the inhabitants (who are the ones inventing the name) whether they live on a moon or on a planet. :rolleyes: Especially given that they quite possibly still believe their world is flat and supported by a giant tortoise. --- However, living on a moon with a very slow rate of rotation (like our moon, where night and day last two weeks each) would explain why one can cross a continent on foot in around two days. :P [ Tuesday, September 20, 2005 21:30: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, September 20 2005 23:44
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Wouldn't a moon orbiting around a planet much larger than itself have horribly violent tides? -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Wednesday, September 21 2005 01:10
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quote:Yes. Also, for maps, I have the following maps of three of the four continents: http://ryan-thompson.home.comcast.net/pralgadmap.gif http://www.sitemouse.com/users/drakefyre/Vantanas.gif http://www.sitemouse.com/users/drakefyre/valorim.gif -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Master
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written Wednesday, September 21 2005 06:36
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Those maps are all nice and good, but what I mean is something like a world map? Like on the first or last pages of an atlas. -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 | Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Wednesday, September 21 2005 08:01
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I'm pretty sure that the geography is determined, browsing through some of the old seasons of the alongside RP to the BoX Arena might give a tenative grasp of locations for the various continents. (Or at least as determined by the fan base). The world isn't entirely explored though of course... so an entire map would be difficult to construct. As for the moon theory, a planet can turn slowly as well as a moon. Take Venus for example. -------------------- "Let's just say that if complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are false'." Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00 |
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