More Blades of Avernum Script Samples. Fun!

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Qalnor
Warrior
Member # 20
 written Saturday, October 25 2003 07:23 Profile #25
Looks cool.. I'm looking very forward to BoA.. I almost started tinkering with BoE after I finished the Avernum series but I really wanted to wait for this to come out.. and this scripting interface looks VERY promising.
Posts: 191 | Registered: Monday, October 1 2001 07:00
The_Nazgul
Infiltrator
Member # 2940
 written Sunday, October 26 2003 16:57 Profile Homepage #26
Thumbs up to the new scripting sistem!!

What is wrong with monsters targeting the weaker PC? I think its the best thing to do for an intresting RP action, maybe Jeff could set default AI inteligence to select from in the monster editor window.

AI-lvl1 = monsters just attacks the closest PC.
AI-lvl2 = monster prefer attacks on weaker PC.
AI-lvl3 = monster prefer weaker PC, makes caster, non-caster distinction. Prefers casters.
AI-lvl4 = prepare yourself for a worthy oponent. Monster attack does not only do all the above, but learns from mistakes. example:

spell_02=fire bolt
(selected PC, considers a series of factors mentioned above, health, caster,non-caster, etc..)

If Monster cast_(spell_02) on_selected PC_1_ = damage = 0
then
disable cast_(spell_02) on_selected PC_1 for next random combat turns<6*
(...or something like that)
if false
continues as usual...
*the reason for not doing damage may be because the PC had a special shielding, thus the AI would try again sometime in the next five turns. Or maybe it would pick another valid target...

There could also be a default AI depending on the monster tipe, example. If the monster is a golem it will never flee from battle, if it is a goblin it will flee when bearly harmed...etc..

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Posts: 469 | Registered: Thursday, May 1 2003 07:00
K.I.L.E.R
Shock Trooper
Member # 751
 written Monday, October 27 2003 03:08 Profile Homepage #27
Nice! :)

Those scripts are in C++ as well, which adds to the overall niceness.
I dislike scripting languages that look like Basic.

UPON CLOSER INSPECTION:

I think Jeff can simplify it more via functions and classes.

IE:
if(pcGod)
{
ai_creature.flee();
}
else
{
do
{
ai_creature.attack();
}
while(ai_creature.maxHp > (ai_creature.baseHp*0.25));
}
See the do loop's condition?

(ai_creature.baseHp*0.25)

could also be thrown into a function:

ai_creature.hp_bfore_flee();

It might not be worth it for such a trivial calculation but it is easy to rewrite Jeff's example scripts into a couple of lines assuming the functions are there.

You just have to balance out the use of inline functions and the non-inline functions.

[ Monday, October 27, 2003 03:29: Message edited by: K.I.L.E.R ]

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Jawaj
Shock Trooper
Member # 461
 written Saturday, November 1 2003 07:17 Profile #28
I really like this! Combat will be so much more in-depth.

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Posts: 346 | Registered: Sunday, December 30 2001 08:00
Garrison
Agent
Member # 2820
 written Saturday, November 1 2003 12:04 Profile #29
PLEASE tell me that the monsters will be able to check the target's stats before attacking. It's so stupid when a fire lizard breathes fire on another fire lizard and then that just keeps going on and on and on. That's also one of the many reasons why summoning isn't helpful.

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bleusoul
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Member # 164
 written Saturday, November 1 2003 12:53 Profile Homepage #30
Great to see what's coming up for BoA. The BoE was terribly constricting for me. Things I wanted to pull off had to be faked most of the time--but this looks much better. Since I know a few programming languages, I'll finally be able to make some of the things I wanted to. I can't wait for this to actually come out.

[ Saturday, November 01, 2003 13:04: Message edited by: Jenkins ]

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Posts: 635 | Registered: Monday, October 15 2001 07:00
Frobozz
Warrior
Member # 246
 written Saturday, November 1 2003 19:20 Profile #31
quote:
Originally written by Jenkins:

Since I know a few programming languages, I'll finally be able to make some of the things I wanted to. I can't wait for this to actually come out.
If you know programming, how come you don't put your skills to work developing your own system? BoE's graphics engine is easy to mimic. All you do is blit sections of bitmaps to the screen according to an array. :)
Posts: 117 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00
K.I.L.E.R
Shock Trooper
Member # 751
 written Saturday, November 1 2003 20:49 Profile Homepage #32
quote:
Originally written by Keep:

PLEASE tell me that the monsters will be able to check the target's stats before attacking. It's so stupid when a fire lizard breathes fire on another fire lizard and then that just keeps going on and on and on. That's also one of the many reasons why summoning isn't helpful.
That would be very easy to do. Just check if the creature that is being attacked isn't strong(absorb,etc) vs the attack method.

You could first cycle through various attacks and use the best ones.

I've been dying to fiddle around with Jeff's work. :D

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Posts: 202 | Registered: Thursday, March 14 2002 08:00
Kennedy
Warrior
Member # 1016
 written Sunday, November 2 2003 23:41 Profile #33
Well, firelizards are kind of dumb, so they probably wouldn't know any better than to target that efreet with thier fire breath. but something like a mage should have the brains to know that fire is useless against efreets but they are vulnerable to cold so they would blast it with an ice spell. However the ability of a monster to be "all knowing" and automicly know which character is weakest and what each of the characters stats are would be very annoying and somewhat unrealistic. This is something that an intelegent monster should have to figure out, for example if attacks on your fighter do low damage but attacks on your mage do higher damage then the monster should figure out that the mage is the better target choice.
Posts: 141 | Registered: Saturday, April 20 2002 07:00
Frobozz
Warrior
Member # 246
 written Monday, November 3 2003 20:19 Profile #34
quote:
Originally written by Kennedy:

This is something that an intelegent monster should have to figure out, for example if attacks on your fighter do low damage but attacks on your mage do higher damage then the monster should figure out that the mage is the better target choice.
Sounds like you're saying that monsters should be developed to have their own memory so they have to learn individually. Sounds like an interesting task. Can somebody say "neural net"?
Posts: 117 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00
K.I.L.E.R
Shock Trooper
Member # 751
 written Monday, November 3 2003 23:54 Profile Homepage #35
What he's saying isn't difficult to do.
You can have the monster randomly target your PC/s and if the monsters damage is low on average than it can target another PC.

Or

Monster can target everyone once and can go in for the kill on the weakest PC.

The targeted PC could be placed under a string variable called "weakestPcName" or something and then every monster part of it's faction/area would know which to target first.

Making the AI smart isn't a hard thing to do in a turn based game.

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Originally written by Frobozz:

quote:
Originally written by Kennedy:

This is something that an intelegent monster should have to figure out, for example if attacks on your fighter do low damage but attacks on your mage do higher damage then the monster should figure out that the mage is the better target choice.
Sounds like you're saying that monsters should be developed to have their own memory so they have to learn individually. Sounds like an interesting task. Can somebody say "neural net"?


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