Combat in scenarios
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Apprentice
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written Monday, August 18 2003 10:32
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Will combat in the BoA scenarios be like in A2, where it's only the weapon and strength that determines how much damage you can do; or will it be like A3, where both the appropriate weapons' skill and strength matters? If it's like A3 then Hardiness will become useless pretty darn quick! -------------------- I'm far too tired to think of a new signature right now. Posts: 6 | Registered: Wednesday, December 19 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, August 18 2003 12:29
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I guess BoA will be most like Avernum 3, but I wouldn't know... -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, August 18 2003 14:26
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I believe Jeff has already said somewhere that the engine, including the combat, is the same as A3. —Alorael, who also expects that several designers will tweak numbers in order to get the damage levels back down to levels that aren't made meaningless by the cap. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Monday, August 18 2003 14:33
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-Karzoth of EEP, who thinks Alorael is right about the designers tweaking... -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Monday, August 18 2003 14:33
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-Karzoth of EEP, who thinks Alorael is right about the designers tweaking... -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Monday, August 18 2003 14:34
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-Karzoth of EEP, who thinks Alorael is right about the designers tweaking... -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Monday, August 18 2003 18:05
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I believe that you fouled up, Karzoth. In any case, I think they'll use the A3 system. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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The Establishment
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written Monday, August 18 2003 18:36
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Perhaps the damage caps can be lifted for BoA. If the testers push hard enough, then it can probably be done, if it is not too difficult. -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, August 18 2003 23:53
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Not only a triple-post, but I recall Alorael being protective of the "signature" signoff. Methinks I'll grab a bowl of popcorn and click on this topic for the next 48 hours for updates... :P -------------------- Though we may fall, others will rise. "Shine on you, Crazy Diamond!" - Mr. Burns in reference to Pink Floyd. Posts: 8 | Registered: Friday, July 4 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, August 19 2003 11:18
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*joins in and gets some popcorn ready...* :P -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, August 19 2003 13:47
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Don't steal my signature, especially if you're going to involve it in triple posting. Such activity is not appreciated, and future transgressions will be dealt with harshly. —Alorael, who just couldn't disappoint his fan club. Now back on topic! Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Tuesday, August 19 2003 15:31
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What the! Firstly, it was merely a joke to get my point across. And how the hell did that triple post? When I originally posted it, there was only one. That is completly not right... I'm not "stealing" your signature either. Damn I only used it once, kiddingly to boot. And to think you people thought I MEANT to triple post. No need for hostility. [ Tuesday, August 19, 2003 15:32: Message edited by: [E.E.P.] Karzoth ] -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, August 19 2003 16:52
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I'm not angry at all! I just can't let my adoring followers down by not giving the standard angry threats. Don't take it personally. —Alorael, who will quietly apologize for the inconvenience. Very quietly, though, or his fans will be upset again, and nobody wants that. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Tuesday, August 19 2003 16:59
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Ok Ok... I'll forget about it. Being as how I know how important the fans are. Uhh... yea... :rolleyes: -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 07:22
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Lol, Alorael, wonderful performance. :P *claps* :P -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 07:34
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Karzoth weird is. Weirdness to anger and hostility to leads. All that is. -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 761 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 08:16
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Was that Yoda, or the google auto translator? Their results are usually very similar... -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 09:38
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It something like Yoda was. -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 761 | Registered: Thursday, June 19 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 13:18
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How am I weird? I get yelled at for stuff I didn't mean to do, and then get called weird for it. This world is coming to an end. And while we're correcting eachother... Yoda doesn't just switch words around at random. What he says actually fits, if not grammatically correct, and makes sense. Jumbling words in random order can't be classified as 'Yoda'. And we need to get back on topic... Never-the-less, combat will be tweaked by designers more than likely, so it's safe to say we don't know how it will be. -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 13:53
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Alorael didn't yell at you seriously, though, and you made a big deal of it. Anyway, combat can be much more interesting in BoA, especially since monsters can cast certain spells and target certain party members. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 14:11
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Too bad, we're back on topic. Otherwise I'd have said that there was actually structure in the jumble, the verb was always at the end, which is afaik typical for Yoda-speak. Now let's get back on topic (once again). If monsters will cast certain spells according to script, can you make them heal themselves if and only if they get below a certain health level, do you think? -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 14:21
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Hmm... I don't feel as if I made a big deal. I don't know any of you, therefore you all mean nothing to me. Sorry if it came off a "big-deal". And does anyone care to explain to me how triple posting works, considering I only pressed ADD REPLY once? (On topic) I'm sure if that would be entirely useful, considering that you normally either beat the crap out of him or barely do anything with the first hit. I suppose this would have room for say a boss, but otherwise it's just not worth going through the programming trials it would take. Just make him heal himself when he feels he needs to, a default reaction I believe. -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 14:26
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Scripts can be shared by different monsters though, I hope, can they? Will every individual monster you place have its script or will each monster type have a generic one? -------------------- Encyclopaedia • Archives • Members • RSS [Topic / Forum] • Blog • Polaris • NaNoWriMo Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. I have a love of woodwind instruments. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 15:06
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As I understand it: when you make a new monster, you can apply a script to it. Then, every time you plant that monster, it has that script. If you wanted to have the same (pretty much) monster, but a different script, you would make a new monster, but make it almost identical to the first one. That's one thought. The other is that you have monsters, then you right-click or something on them and bring up an info screen of just that monster. There you would be able to change it's simple stuff, and also apply scripts to that specific monster. These are my ideas on how the scripting of monsters will work, but they are probably wrong. Maybe Jeff can tell us? -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, August 20 2003 15:50
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I believe it will also be possible to give individual monsters special AI and scripts. But I'd say that combat is always boring. The fun is in figuring out the tactics to use and being right (or horribly wrong). —Alorael, who expects lots of tactical fun from BoA. He still wants an amazing gauntlet of Dark Wyrms on raised platforms. And intelligent spellcasters will be terrifying. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |