When ordering a game?

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Hi all! I am newly registered. I have read alot about these games and I have heard they are pretty good. I am looking to order a game but I have a question. When I place my order do I have to have a CD mailed to me or can I simply DL the game directly. This is not explicitly stated as far as I can tell. This may seem like a stupid question but I would rather play this immediately then wait for the CD to be mailed. Thanks for any assistance in advance. :)
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You can download a demo of any game. Most of them have registration keys that you put on your order form. After your order is processed, you will receive registration codes for said games. The CDs will arive later in the mail, but you can enjoy the games anyway.

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Before you order you can download the games from the website, but will only be able to play the first part of each game (= demo version). If you want to play the full game then you order and pay up, and you'll be given a registration code to use on the game that you have already downloaded. Then you will have access to the full version of the game. If you want the game on CD then you can state this when you order, and I think it costs a couple of dollars extra.

If you haven't already I'd suggest you download a couple of the games and have a mess around with them. There are details of how to order/register both within each game and on the website.

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Thanks very much guys! I will do that. Do you have any suggestions on which games to start with?
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Originally written by Jman1979:

Do you have any suggestions on which games to start with?
Hoooo boy. It depends a little on what you're looking for. The Avernum and Geneforge series are the most recent, and I'm always a fan of starting at the beginning, so Avernum 1 or Geneforge 1 is a good place to start.

If you don't mind picking up in the middle of a story, Avernum 2 and Geneforge 4 are favorites around here. Nethergate is also very popular, and it stands alone.

If you like really old-school games, the Exile series may be the way to go.

And the Blades games are certainly each a good purchase. Blades of Exile has 300+ user-created scenarios associated with it, so you could play it endlessly, and Blades of Avernum has dozens as well. If you'd like massive and unending within a single Spidweb-made game, Avernum 3 deserves honorable mention as the largest game Spidweb has ever made (almost the size of Avernum 1 and Avernum 2 put together).

The only game I'd recommend against starting with is Avernum 4. It's really meant for people who've played Avernums 1-3 and are already fans of the series.

Download the demos and try them. None of the games are significantly worse than the demos suggest, and BoE and BoA are much better than the demos suggest, so you can get a pretty good feel for the games from the demos.

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Thanks alot! I am going to try a few out soon. Again, thanks for the warm welcome. :D
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(What Kel said.)

There are three game series – Exile, Avernum and Geneforge – so you could start with the first game in one of those series. Exile was Spiderweb's original game and is very good, if quite dated (released around 13 years ago I believe). The Avernum series is an updated version of the Exile series, and personally I prefer it and find it easier to play, but there is a lot to be said for Exile. Have a look at both.

The Geneforge series is newer, and set in a different world with very different characters and abilities. I never got into it, mainly because I don't like real time games (Exile and Avernum are turn based).

The other worthy mention is Nethergate, similar in appearances to Avernum but with a completely different setting and storyline. Very enjoyable.

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Not Avernum 4 or Geneforge 3. They're not bad per se, but they're not exactly good either, from what I've heard, especially plotwise. A4 supposedly has some of the best strategic combat of any of Spidweb's games, though, so if you don't care about plot and like strategic combat, try the demo of A4 (it's got a rather different engine than the previous installments in the series). Don't start your Spidweb experience with G3 though.

Avernum 1-3 are remakes of Exile 1-3 with a newer engine and some minor added stuff. Some people prefer the old engine, some prefer the new engine. Finding out which you prefer is what the demos are for. Each of the first three installments in either engine is good, but the third is good in a different way from the first two.

Blades of Exile and Blades of Avernum contain programs for creating "scenarios", which are games made using the Exile and Avernum engines, respectively, which run in the main BoE/A programs. I don't recommend buying BoE because Jeff Vogel said he's going to release the source code as soon as he figures out what he did with it. There are hundreds of scenarios available for BoE (some of which are excellent and many of which are good) and significantly fewer for BoA (which is newer and far more complicated to make scenarios for). I'm not sure about BoA, but BoE doesn't have a registration code. You must buy the CD (if you buy it at all, which again isn't recommended unless Jeff changes his mind about releasing the source code), but he sends you a URL where you can download the full program. The only scenario playable in either unregistered program is the mediocre Valley of Dying Things, unfortunately. The second included scenario, A Small Rebellion, is highly rated at the Lyceum (see my signature for a link).

Nethergate (which isn't part of a series) is supposed to be excellent, but a remake is currently in testing, so I recommend holding out on this one for now.

Geneforge 4, the latest game, is also supposed to be excellent, featuring (from what I've heard) some of the best storytelling Jeff's ever done. Geneforge 1 and 2 are quite good as well, and I recommend playing the whole series for plot reasons. (it's not strictly necessary though).

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I will try all of them and see which catched my attention the most. Thanks alot for the recommendations. You guys are much more helpful than others I have run ito on other boards.
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A note from the author.

Sometimes, a friend asks me which of my games they should play to see what I do. Before, I hemmed and hawed and suggest Geneforge or Avernum.

Now I say, without question, Geneforge 4: Rebellion. I feel that, all things considered, it's my best game.

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As someone who had played no Geneforge games before Geneforge 4, I agree. It's a great game even if you know virtually nothing about the prequels. I'm still an Avernum partisan, but I think Geneforge 4 is probably the objectively best game, if that makes any sense.

—Alorael, who really recommends downloading a bunch and trying them all for a few minutes. It costs you nothing but a little time, and it's quite possible that you'll end up registering an enormous number of games. They really range from good to amazing.
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Originally written by Jman1979:

Thanks very much guys! I will do that. Do you have any suggestions on which games to start with?
Start with Geneforge 1, and work your way up to Geneforge 4. No contest.

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Hmm… all the hype about GF4 makes me want to try it.

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Have you played any Geneforge(1-4)? At all?

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