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Law Bringer
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My view would be that "water' defines a fluid with certain properties and uses. To each person the fluid on their home Earth would have the same properties and uses unless they could determine the chemical structure as part of their normal existance. For most people they would not be able to determine a difference.

On the question of water conducting electricity, at a sufficiently high voltage it would conduct even in its purest state. The current would probably flow through air long before it reached this point.
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Infiltrator
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If the current can flow through air at that point, what about stuff like wood or plastic? Would they conduct under special circumstances too? If so, are there any 'superinsulators' that will not conduct electricity no matter what you try?
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Originally written by The Stew Boy:

If so, are there any 'superinsulators' that will not conduct electricity no matter what you try?
Nope. Everything will conduct electricity a little bit if you try hard enough to get it to do so. Pure silica is pretty close to a perfect insulator, though.

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Law Bringer
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Vacuum if you want to stretch the definition of a perfect insulator. The separation between hydrogen atoms makes ionization for conduction into the megavolt range.
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My view would be that "water' defines a fluid with certain properties and uses. To each person the fluid on their home Earth would have the same properties and uses unless they could determine the chemical structure as part of their normal existance. For most people they would not be able to determine a difference.

common sense definition?

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If the current can flow through air at that point, what about stuff like wood or plastic?
Interesting enough, wet wood conducts electricity better than dry wood. Experiments by Ben Franklin (circa 1952) with respect to pointed bodies being able to draw off or throw off "electrical fire" were first performed with iron and then repeated with wood. "perfectly dry" wood points could not replicate the effect of an iron point but damp wood points would.

The experiment consisted of charging an iron ball, next to a cork ball hanging by a thread. The charged iron ball repelled the cork ball. When presented with a pointed object, the charge transferred and the cork ball was no longer repelled.

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Electric Sheep One
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Even perfect vacuum, with no hydrogen atoms anywhere, is a conductor. An electric field excites pairs of electrically charged particles and antiparticles from vacuum. The rate at which this occurs is incredibly slow, and the corresponding current density incredibly tiny, unless the electric field is incredibly strong. All these incredibles amount to the fact that this effect has not yet been observed. But it is a very basic consequence of quantum field theory, many of whose other predictions have been tested with incredible rigor.

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Electric Sheep One
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quote:
Originally written by 2bit:

Experiments by Ben Franklin (circa 1952)
Early to bed and early to rise makes a man live one heck of a long time.

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1852.

To all those that don't proofread their e-posts, a single mistake can make all the difference if it is critical. Stream of consciousness is for the lazy.

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Warrior
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Franklin was not alive in 1852.

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Completing an experiment that late would still be miraculous.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Agent
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quote:
Originally written by Maimonides:

Franklin was not alive in 1852.
He's that good.

[ Friday, September 01, 2006 10:26: Message edited by: Raka shaka laka ]

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Originally written by Kelandon
Well, I'm at least pretty

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Arrgh. :mad:

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To all those that don't proofread their e-posts, a single mistake can make all the difference if it is critical. Stream of consciousness is for the lazy.

Should've taken my own advice. :mad:

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Shaper
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I big yawn to everything on this page of the thread. :o

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quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

Completing an experiment that late would still be miraculous.
I think it would be impolite for no one to provide the perfunctory *groan*, so consider your pun acknowledged.

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