****ty Christmas and #@!%ing new year!!

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I hate this holydays!!! Well,I don't hate the celebration in general, I specifically hate MY holydays.
Why? Because of the stupid shop of my family!!
We sell anything here from candies to condoms, passing through drinks, beers, wines, candles, beans, cd's, and even pencils!
In christmas I do this: wait in my room watching TV until about 10 Pm, then i must go out and help my parents to tend all the drunk buying in the shop, then maybe turn on the computer and listen music so i could not get so bored, then when at least is christmas about 12 AM my cousins arrive and give some cheap but nice gifts.
After that I go to the house of my grandparents, that died the last year, to give the presents to my other cousins.Then i go back to my home, play a while with my cousin and then go to bed.Then I enjoy listening the funny christmas histories of my friends with a fake happy face.
Oh but in New year the party in my house is set!!
In all december 31 Its forbidden for me to go out, I must help in the shop...the night is sooo damn long, and now the drunk guys are everywhere, I must carry beers all the night, and then, when at last is new year, my dad is so considered that he even close for 5 minutes!!Then there come the new year hugs!!
Now like in christmas I go to my grandparent's house and hug some more people...
Then I go to sleep, or trying to, the noise of the parties and the smeel of roasted meat fill the atmosphere!!
And again I must hear all the histories about the amazing new year party, all my friends drink alcohol in front of their parents that are already drunk...and me, just here, in this damn cursed place... :(

Now please be kind and tell me what do you do in your perfect christmas and new year.
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Generally don't celebrate it all that much.

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Feliz Navidad Chicho...y deja que quejarte hueon, pareci vieja. :D

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Dude. The glass is half full, man.

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Ceremonially, my next door neighboors and I fire fireworks off into the horizon on New Year's signifing...um...breaking into the horizon of the New Year?

Screw it, we're just doing it to get the death threats from the neighboors and (sometimes) the police. Only happened twice, and we've been doing this for four years. Pretty smooth, eh? :D

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1) Hugs are good for you.

2) Enjoy your childhood while you're there. It will be over soon enough, and then maybe you'll miss it.

3) There are better things to do with the holidaze than get drunk. You're not missing much.

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Originally written by Uhh... ben?:

Dude. The glass is half full, man.
No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. The glass is twice as big as it's supposed to be. :P

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I don't celebrate christmas at all, because i find it all fake.

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That is an interesting position to take on Christmas. Do you disapprove of the Christian history behind it, or the commercialized hype? I tend to believe that Christmas in America is now more important as a secular holiday for spending money, but I simply cannot say that jocular atmosphere and attitude is "fake." On the other hand, I have a cold at the moment so I might not be able to experience as much of the ambience as I would like.

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I celebrate Chanukah with my family, which is basically my mom trying to get me and my dad away from the piano and to the table for dinner and then later for presents. For New Years we go to West Virginia to a friend's house where my dad and I remain glued to THAT piano and I defeat the two kids around my age at suicide chess until they refuse to play with me.

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Originally written by Garrison:

That is an interesting position to take on Christmas. Do you disapprove of the Christian history behind it, or the commercialized hype? I tend to believe that Christmas in America is now more important as a secular holiday for spending money, but I simply cannot say that jocular atmosphere and attitude is "fake." On the other hand, I have a cold at the moment so I might not be able to experience as much of the ambience as I would like.
Maybe i overreacted...

Or not.

Anyway, its not that i really think its fake. its mainly "Santa" who's fake. The history... Well. i don't believe in any religion or that there's a god somewhere so i approve of the history of christmas for as far as i can approve of it. No, its really Santa and the whole tradition, also with the presents, which i find a bit fakish. i don't really know how to put it.

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Or maybe it's fake because all it is is a combination of two pagan holidays :rolleyes: .
One, to stop the days from getting shorter (on the winter solstice) and the other was a norse holidy that involved placing toys under an evergreen for the village children to find (somehow pleasing Odin).
Calculations based on the Bible show that Jesus couldn't have been born on Christmas and was more along the lines of early Autumn. If he was real at all, as the histories written by Josephus Flavius seem to leave out, although every other occurance that happened between the Jews and Romans in the same time period are included. :rolleyes: again.

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Originally written by Infernal666hate:

Or maybe it's fake because all it is is a combination of two pagan holidays :rolleyes: .
Or maybe he's read too much JD Salinger...

Like Garrison, I don't see how you can just dismiss Christmas as "fake". I mean, the family unity, the feasts, the tree... regardless of why they're there, they are certainly not illusions, and for those with the will and ability to enjoy the holiday, it is very real. Santa is fake, but children receiving gifts is not, and when you come right down to it, what's the difference? Jesus may not have been born on December 25th (I've heard late Spring, too, Infernal, from equally irreverent sources), but so what? Now is as good a time to celebrate his birth, for those of us who do, as any other. And regardless of the origins of Christmas, it's what we get out of it that matters. If it's not about sitting around worshipping the tree and worrying about Odin's wrath, how can anyone call it a pagan holiday?

In conclusion, Merry Christmas to all those who celebrate it, Happy Chanukah to those who celebrate that (Nico, same here minus the father), and happy whatever else to whoever else. Does anyone here celebrate Kwanzaa?

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Originally written by The_Nazgul:

Feliz Navidad Chicho...y deja que quejarte hueon, pareci vieja. :D
Bueno tenia que desahogarme, en realidad la navidad no es tan mala pero estaba algo enojado cuando escribi eso...Pero bueno = hay personas que la pasan peor que yo.

Well, sometimes i think that the christmas is just a buying frenzy day, but it's not that bad, it depends how you take it personally, at least im sorrounded by a lot of people from a lot of social classes, and the gifts aren't big but i still enjoy the christmas. Well that happens here, where the 99,9% of people is christian, not like other countries where there are other religions too and the christmas become a joke...or another chance of the commerce to sell a lot of useless toy that will maybe end in trash can after a week or two.
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quote:
Originally written by chicho1102:

I hate this holydays!!! Well,I don't hate the celebration in general, I specifically hate MY holydays.
Why? Because of the stupid shop of my family!!
We sell anything here from candies to condoms, passing through drinks, beers, wines, candles, beans, cd's, and even pencils!
In christmas I do this: wait in my room watching TV until about 10 Pm, then i must go out and help my parents to tend all the drunk buying in the shop, then maybe turn on the computer and listen music so i could not get so bored, then when at least is christmas about 12 AM my cousins arrive and give some cheap but nice gifts.
After that I go to the house of my grandparents, that died the last year, to give the presents to my other cousins.Then i go back to my home, play a while with my cousin and then go to bed.Then I enjoy listening the funny christmas histories of my friends with a fake happy face.
Oh but in New year the party in my house is set!!
In all december 31 Its forbidden for me to go out, I must help in the shop...the night is sooo damn long, and now the drunk guys are everywhere, I must carry beers all the night, and then, when at last is new year, my dad is so considered that he even close for 5 minutes!!Then there come the new year hugs!!
Now like in christmas I go to my grandparent's house and hug some more people...
Then I go to sleep, or trying to, the noise of the parties and the smeel of roasted meat fill the atmosphere!!
And again I must hear all the histories about the amazing new year party, all my friends drink alcohol in front of their parents that are already drunk...and me, just here, in this damn cursed place... :(

Now please be kind and tell me what do you do in your perfect christmas and new year.

That brings a new meaning to 'tl, dr'.

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I am thinking that Josephus might have left out any mention of Jesus because he didn't really make any immediate historical impact outside the numerous lives he is said to have personaly touched. In future decades after the death of Jesus around 34 A.D., as Christianity began to spread like wildfire, the impact became visible, though it was indirect. Josephus wrote in gruesome detail, the bloody horrors that befell the city of Jerusalem when it was sieged and ravaged by Titus and his armies in 70 A.D., fulfilling prophecies Jesus is said to have made about the destruction of the temple and the "end times" of the end of the age of the law in which the wise are told to flee the city when they see it encircled. Many did, especially Christians, so it is said. Those who remained behind were slaugthered.

Separate from its transparent pagan origins of being "Christianized" by Constantine in the third century so the masses could still have their old solstice festivals, what is weird and overwrought about Christmas to me is this overcelebration of a baby being born. If one believes in the Christ, then it is his resurrection (and not even his death) which is real moment of his life to celebrate. It's a cute story, but the birth of the baby in a smelly stable was the least important part of his whole life. So why do so many obsess over it? It's perpetual focus on a cute, helpless baby view of God, rather than focusing on one of real power, victory, or maturity.

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Very true, Synergy. I think the baby in the smelly stable appeals more to the part of man that is scared of the unknown; it is more accessable, especially for children, and, I suppose, more believable. Christ for the masses, which is what he was meant for in the first place. While I agree that the focus is misplaced, there's not much that can be done about it at this point, and really, I wouldn't want to do anything to detract from a holiday so thoroughly steeped in the idea of peace on earth and goodwill toward men. Enough of that is being done already.

EDIT: stable.

[ Sunday, December 25, 2005 19:11: Message edited by: Lady Davida ]

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i hate school breakes. i get sick everytime i go on a brake, its like a curse. and people wonder why i get depressed

Edit: is it just me or do i have trouble spelling today

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Both.

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There's much commercialism and eating frenzy in France too around this time. I see more stress on having special or costly dinner (oysters, lobsters, duck liver, expensive fish etc.) than religion. And say, some would find it outragous to accompany meat by something as cheap as *gasp* potatoes. I think Christ himself would appreciate more simplicity... But then market has more influence than tradition or faith. Family reunion doesn't do too well neither. As a side-note they have already started selling Epiphany pastries...

This year I didn't even stay awake to celebrate winter solstice, didn't feel like it. Setting traditions aside till stabilizing my life a bit. My current activity is painting walls of our future apartment, moving stuff up and down the stairs, measuring spaces and such. Busy tiresome holidays here :)
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