Army rations rehydrated by urine
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Infiltrator
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written Thursday, July 22 2004 09:29
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Read it here. Poor soldiers :D -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 | Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, July 22 2004 09:38
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Well, I suppose they'd probably prefer to drink muddy water than to lug around a whole lot more clean water... maybe. But drinking urine (don't know about with this gizmo they mention) is counterproductive, I think, in the same way drinking salt water is. It is, at least, if Bill Bryson is a reliable source. -------------------- You're a moron if you think I'm not. Posts: 213 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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By Committee
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written Thursday, July 22 2004 09:53
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Wow. What will they think of next? It kind of reminded me of the stillsuits in Dune, which made the body the most efficient place to store water. That can't be said, however, for people largely exposed to the elements, with their moisture evaporating into the air as they sweat. Still, anything in a pinch, I guess... Posts: 2242 | Registered: Saturday, April 10 2004 07:00 |
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written Thursday, July 22 2004 10:26
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quote:They wouldn't use it to drink, but to rehydrate the food. So the extra "salt" would just spice the food. :D -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 | Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, July 22 2004 12:37
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The thing is, when you drink salt water of a certain concentration, the effect of the salt outweighs the effect of the water. Ie, you are dehydrated even more. But it's a nifty idea: Use entropy to move the water from one impurification - dirt - to another, non-toxic one, ie food... -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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written Thursday, July 22 2004 12:55
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Anyway, if bacteries can't pass through the membrane, maybe salt crystaloids can't either. :) -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 | Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, July 22 2004 12:59
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The salt's not really that much of a problem. As the article points out, the real worry is urea. There's a reason we have to excrete urine, and taking it back in doesn't do us much good. However, for any non-desert operation, there's sure to be some source of liquid somewhere besides in the soldiers, and they'll be sweating less if they're not carrying water with their rations. —Alorael, who supposes that blood would do in a pinch. That's either a motivation to engage with the enemy and cause blood to fountain everywhere or a motivation to get along well with your comrades because come supper time someone's going to have to open a vein. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Mongolian Barbeque
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written Friday, July 23 2004 10:19
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Whoa — talk about an attention-grabbing topic... I was just reading the topic headings in the General forum — most of it the typical, mundane stuff — and then something about "rehydration" and "urine" jumps out at me... -------------------- The A.E. van Vogt Information Site My Tribute to the Greatest Writer of the Science Fiction Golden Age Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00 |
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written Friday, July 23 2004 10:31
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Urea doesn't pass the membrane. The problem is that it's corrosive, so the membrane wouldn't last long. :) -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 | Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00 |
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written Friday, July 23 2004 11:55
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Sigh another everyday article. Get your daily dose of these kinds of things http://www.snopes.com and http://www.forteantimes.com :rolleyes: -------------------- Wasting your time and mine looking for a good laugh. Star Bright, Star Light, Oh I Wish I May, I Wish Might, Wish For One Star Tonight. Posts: 1084 | Registered: Thursday, November 7 2002 08:00 |
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written Friday, July 23 2004 15:10
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Personally, I wouldn't mind if I had to drink filtered urine if it would lighten my pack so much. At least as long as they tested it on other people first. :) That's a cool idea. -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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written Friday, July 23 2004 15:49
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OMG I DRINK MY OWN BLOOD BLOOD TURNS ME ON DID U NOE IM ACTUALLY A VAMPIER?? SEE MORE AT www.vampirefreaks.com YA SO ANYWAY DRINKING MY OWN PISS WOULD BE THE SAEM AS DRINKING MY OWN BLOOD SO I WOULD DO IT -------------------- fame fame fatal fame it can play hideous tricks on the brain Posts: 407 | Registered: Friday, May 14 2004 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Friday, July 23 2004 20:12
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*throws Rosycat into the sun* >8E Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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written Friday, July 23 2004 20:14
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In Venezuela there is a bit of a urine drinking fetish--don't think of it as a you know what fetish because it isn't that way and by the gods in the firmament that is a topic that has nothing to do with this!--by that I mean, a good number of people do it. I've no idea of the percentage, but it comes up in conversations from time to time. Also, you will see people going to what passes for talk shows here and speaking of the wonderful properties of urine drinking. Also, the Curanderos(as), think """witch""" doctors, also offer urine as part of the cures. They also offer a bunch of other really freaky stuff. Egh. What I have heard is that it's okay if you drink it as long as it is yours. I had an anecdote about this but shall not say anything. You will sleep better not knowing that, and I shall sleep better knowing you don't know. But I've heard it tastes worse than warm beer. Acidic and needless to say warm. I'm glad, Rosy, that here we don't have too many goths. I am so glad. So glad. There are a few, but not quite like the U.S. Now maybe some Curandera(o) somewhere will invent another magical cure that mixes urine with blood (both your own, of course, 'cause otherwise it will be unhealthy and unsanitary) And I wouldn't be surprise if I stop by one of our shabby bars and they give me urine on the rocks with a little rum and they call it some catchy name like El Chiguire Atomico, or something. Blech. -------------------- quote:Random Jack Vance Quote Manual Generator Apparatus (Cugel's Saga) Posts: 604 | Registered: Sunday, June 20 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 08:32
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AGH AUHF IM DYING HEER THE SUN SCARES ME! BRING ME BAC TO THE NIGHT U WILL PAY FOR THIS IMBAN I WIL BITE UR NECK AND DRINK UR BLOOD!!! -------------------- fame fame fatal fame it can play hideous tricks on the brain Posts: 407 | Registered: Friday, May 14 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 09:18
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*rescues Rosy and returns her to her coffin, glaring at Imban* NOT NICE IMBAN NOT NICE AT ALL :mad: -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 10:00
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Having in consideration that the urine is an excretion of our body, I don't think drinking it again would be ok. :) For example, if the body must lower the blood's (humm, let's call it) "substance X", to lower its pH it will throw away that substance. If you drink it again, then you're braking that equilibrium again, puting yourself in danger. :) [ Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:02: Message edited by: Overwhelming ] -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 | Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 10:03
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quote:What's the taste of the virtual blood? I'm curious ;) -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 | Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 13:41
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AUF THANX KEL BITE BITE IMBAN -------------------- fame fame fatal fame it can play hideous tricks on the brain Posts: 407 | Registered: Friday, May 14 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 14:40
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Well now, if a wild guess is anything to go by, I would suggest that virtual blood tastes a little like a scrap of a moth-eaten anorak that has been left in perpetual rain for five years before being used to clean the largest (and therefore smelliest) pair of shoes in the world, then being made into a sautee with yoghurt. -------------------- Aut Tace Aut Loquere Meliora Silencio Posts: 1487 | Registered: Sunday, February 10 2002 08:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 16:03
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*secretly exchanges Rosycat's coffin for a tanning bed* Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 18:03
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*Abuses asterisks* —Alorael, who doesn't see anything wrong with a tanning bed as long as it's not turned on. Tanning beds can, in fact, make very nice coffins for those who like a room with a view. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |