what if, in GF3.....
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, July 20 2004 18:27
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what if, in Geneforge 3, instead of being sent from some council or lawful upstanding cause, then ending up somewhere or other and having the choice to follow orders or rebel, we were working for evil? What if for once, there were no problems, everything was in this glorious state of unending peace- or so they thought. We, the rebel shapers, or possibly even serviles, though i think i prefer dark rebel army of shapers, drayks, cyrodrayks and drakons, were on a mission to destroy their wondrous earth and create a better dark one. I mean i know the whole good vs. evil values and such, but you COULD always have the option of fighting for the good side. I think it should be like a civil war of some sort, set in a shaper colony or something, and in the dark caverns beneath it, resentful shapers who never forgave the shaper council for not allowing them acess to the secrets of the geneforge have bred a great and terrible army, but they need you to overthrow the peace first, though the shapers arent too on guard, they are still strong. It is YOUR mission to weaken them, you get a fairly limited supply of spells and creations to begin with, as to make the game challenging, but, if in the end, you succeed, you can (with graphics not an end story) lead an entire army of powerful rebels and dark wizards/shapers and creations against the shaper community. Or of course, you could choose to hold up the peace and live a mediocre life in a balanced world, rather than one of power and greatness in a ravaged, empire- like nation. I also think that, as a part of the game, you should be able to join one side, such as, join the shaper council in preventing the disaster, while really being a spy working for the other side. I was frustrated in Geneforge 1,2, that when i joined a faction, such as the takers, the obeyers would no longer deal with me. Can't your loyalties lie in one place, and yet you still have the advantages of another? However, I am making this too long. I know that Genforge 3 is already being made and that the storyline will likely be nothing like this, but i just think it would be an interesting change. -------------------- put margarita salt on the top of ur right hand, between thumb and forefinger, hold shot of tequila in right had, hold lime in left hand...lick the salt, drink the shot, bite the lime...i love my dad...i love margarita parties...i love tequila -at times, being in love sucks- but at others- DAMN Posts: 5 | Registered: Saturday, July 17 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, July 20 2004 18:32
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I'm really quite sure you shouldn't use that name. -------------------- Pathological Jerk Jerking at Spiderweb since 1999 Posts: 143 | Registered: Sunday, April 18 2004 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, July 20 2004 18:38
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O_o Wait'll Draky hears about this... -------------------- ALBATROSS!!! -John Cleese !!!Long live Monty Python!!! Not a Chance! Long Live The Weather Balloons! Posts: 304 | Registered: Monday, May 27 2002 07:00 |
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Master
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written Tuesday, July 20 2004 19:10
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tl, dr -------------------- Polaris - Weather balloons, ninjas, and your big daddy Wise Man. What more could you want? Undead Theories - Don't Ask, Don't Tell Posts: 3323 | Registered: Thursday, April 25 2002 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, July 20 2004 19:15
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Not to mention this belongs in another topic I'm too lazy to link, and even if it wasn't, it would still be in the wrong forum. But really I have no problem with any of that. Just the name. -------------------- Pathological Jerk Jerking at Spiderweb since 1999 Posts: 143 | Registered: Sunday, April 18 2004 07:00 |
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Master
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written Tuesday, July 20 2004 19:17
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well, having an entire rant in one gargantuan paragraph makes the post seem 100 times longer than it really is. hence my first comment. and no, i'm not reading that mad jumble until it's broken into paragraphs and translated into english. -------------------- Polaris - Weather balloons, ninjas, and your big daddy Wise Man. What more could you want? Undead Theories - Don't Ask, Don't Tell Posts: 3323 | Registered: Thursday, April 25 2002 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Tuesday, July 20 2004 20:00
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Do not be rude to the newbies, it's..rude. But, Wiseman has a point. I got about halfway through with it, and it sounds rather interesting. -------------------- I am the apidimy of seven sausages. The Abyss DEAD. TEH EVOL STRAWBERY When fruit fights back. End of World We're definitely going to blow ourselves up. Posts: 489 | Registered: Friday, December 20 2002 08:00 |
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Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire!
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written Tuesday, July 20 2004 20:21
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I got the whole way through, and it really isn't all that interesting. I'm sure Jeff's got the GF3 storylines planned already, so if this were the plan for anything, it would be GF4. The main idea, for those of you who didn't read it, is that everything seems fine for the shapers, but there are underground rebel shapers planning some sort of invasion. You choose which side you're on, etc etc. Not really all that different from the way GF is already, just more of an emphasis on shapers rather than creations. -------------------- And though the musicians would die, the music would live on in the imaginations of all who heard it. -The Last Pendragon Polaris = joy. In case of emergency, break glass. Posts: 3351 | Registered: Saturday, April 6 2002 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, July 21 2004 04:34
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Ah, it was already agreed that it wasn't a CoC violation I think. 'Sides, how's (s)he supposed to know? Also, that's a point, they've started G3, and on all the other SW games, by now they all had their own forums up. It might be an idea, to save the other fora from travesty. Just a thought but still. -------------------- Aut Tace Aut Loquere Meliora Silencio Posts: 1487 | Registered: Sunday, February 10 2002 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 00:07
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To Wiseman and any other gamers who are concerned with my name and/or post, or are a bit curious; okay, as there is so many difficulties concerning my name, i may just have to change it. However, my reason for posting again in this topic is simple. Wiseman, I will try to fulfill your requests, though I understand a few of you did not find my idea interesting, a fact which I fully respect and comply with, I still would like to clear a few things up. Quote, by Wiseman-------------------------------- well, having an entire rant in one gargantuan paragraph makes the post seem 100 times longer than it really is. hence my first comment. and no, i'm not reading that mad jumble until it's broken into paragraphs and translated into english. ------------------------------------------------- I will attempt to render this post valid, in accordance to each of your complaints. 1. Length- While I cannot change that I simply wrote a great deal in this topic, and am writing a lot now, I do not feel where that should be too much of a problem, as I assume you were simply discouraged by the lack of indentation. There is also the simple and beautiful fact that you have a choice wether to read this or not, but then, it is possible what I have to say is simplay so addicting that you do not care to abandon the pure joy of reading it. 2. It seems that when you say, mad jumble, you are either reffering to dissatisfying content, or again, finding it difficult to read due to the absence of proper spacing. But then, prehaps, you are just having trouble comprehending what I have written in such context as I chose to use. Many apologies. 3.Paragraphs- This flaw is one that I can easily correct, and with pleasure. I would like to thank you, Wiseman for truly being wise in this case, recognizing this difficulty and making certain that I was aware of it. I again, would like to apologize, I am quite dissappointed in my self for not making my text clearer. I will re- post, in a clearer, more concise, and overall simpler way. I will also attempt to present my information in shorter form, though, as I said, you have the choice not to read what I have to say, I am but correcting a few amateur errors. 4. As for your fourth and final request, that my 'mad jumble', which is such a creative and intellectual way of putting it, if I might say, be translated into English. I am deeply and sincerely sorry for this inconveniece, and truly disturbed that I am unable to find a solution to your individual troubles with the language I speak. I must be mistaken, thinking I am reading, writing, and speaking in America's official language, the English I adore, while truthfully, I read English, while speaking in Japanese and writing in Mandarin. This is a fairly serious problem, which I will have to see to correcting, however, as I am as of yet, uncertain how to contact someonewho might assist me in these circumstances, I can only hope from the depths of my being that I will have an uncharacteristic stroke of luck and miraculously have written this entire post in English, rather than my native Thai. Alright, now that I have at least attempted to resolve each part of your statement, I will post my revised edition of the topic, originally, 'What if, in Geneforge 3..." Those who have read this far, thankyou, I aprriciate you taking your time with me, I would only ask that you bear with me a bit longer. Seyanora....Er, bi-langual difficulties again- scusi! Modified and, quite hopefully, improved version of original post.... What if, in Geneforge 3, instead of being sent from some council or lawful upstanding cause, then ending up somewhere or other and having the choice to follow orders or rebel, we were working for evil? What if for once, there were no problems, everything was in this glorious state of unending peace- or so they thought. Enter player - we, the rebel shapers, have formed a dark army of fierce rogue creations and people from all walks of life, be they Shaper, Guardian, or Agent. This extensive evil army is on a mission to destroy the Shapers, wondrous earth and create a land of those in power, and those in shadow. To have revenge on those who tried to force them to conform, those who wished only that they succumbed to their own will. Evaporation of the middle class, of the followers, all serve the evil Shaper overlord or die. I mean I understand that thus far into the series, the games have well conveyed the good vs. evil deadlock, letting your morality or mortality decide the outcome, but I think that for a change, it would be interesting to be an Agent of evil. Were we to have the choice of joining the good side, I believe we should be able to lie about where our loyalties lay. The game should be open to allowing us to pose as a double agent or a spy, someone who is very valuable, yet would cause a lot less trouble dead. A civil war of some sort would be interesting, set in a shaper colony or other resource of civilization, as others have mentioned. The setting should be a place of greatness. Meanwhile, unbeknownst to the Council, in the dark caverns beneath whatever such town or colony, resentful shapers who never forgave the shaper council for not allowing them access to the secrets of the Geneforge and forbidding them to advance in possibly ‘unethical’ experiments- though the shapers themselves have never been too terribly ethical. These rebels, rogue humans, to say, have bred a great and terrible army, but they need you to act as spies, to sabotage any and all things that keep the peace in balance. It is your job to overthrow this Utopia and weaken the area, so that the attack can proceed. In this case, I believe you should have limited melee and/or spell skills, while having an impressive array of creations you have access to, as the force you work for thrives on the experimentation and creation of Shaper aids. If you succeed, staying loyal to your unholy cause the entire game, you may lead an entire attack against the shapers, using war strategies and special items to advance you’re allies’ standing in battle. Then, the end story can come in, depending on the results of the war and what you chose to fight for, feed you one of many outcomes. Again, to Wiseman and other dissatisfied Spider Web forum readers, I hope this meets your approval. I would be terribly pained if I have failed you once again. In a last response to your comments, I am indeed fully aware that this game and all others currently in the works, of the company or of Mr. Jeff Vogel’s elaborate and enticing imagination, already have storylines. The feeling that this is similar to the other Geneforge storylines I can also relate to. I know that it may sound familiar, and I suppose that, to those of you to whom my post is lost on, I am simply unable to convey this to you at the time, but the concept is completely different. To those who are still horribly dissatisfied with my post, I again apologize, though, at times, one must learn to accept that you cannot possibly make everyone happy. I can only try. Thanks and all apologies, Good day and Goodnight, Buenos Nachos! One further note: I could not manage to keep the tab button's results in my final post. Excuse thefurther lack of indentation. -------------------- put margarita salt on the top of ur right hand, between thumb and forefinger, hold shot of tequila in right had, hold lime in left hand...lick the salt, drink the shot, bite the lime...i love my dad...i love margarita parties...i love tequila -at times, being in love sucks- but at others- DAMN Posts: 5 | Registered: Saturday, July 17 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 05:05
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Well, that was certainly a very loquacious post, though it did conform well to most people who don't let there eyes melt when they see things like that. A game where you start out as the rebel shapers... Seems nice. You think they should tie in the Drakons from Geneforge 2? I think the choice of specializing in shaping, melee, and spells should still be left up to the player. A guild for each of the classes would be nice. I would like to see the Shaper Council get completely overturned. -------------------- What do I put here? -Garrison Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 07:14
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I'd play it! Then it would be 'Get ready to die, ridiculous shapers! Mua ha ha ha ha!' :cool: -------------------- If anyone ever asks you why you did something, say "Because I could". Posts: 834 | Registered: Thursday, July 8 2004 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 12:40
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Ah... hmm... shortening? I'll just use a suggestion. Ah Draykey, don't worry about the name, some may grumble but Drakey hasn't said anything and the mods have left it so it's probably all cool. -------------------- Aut Tace Aut Loquere Meliora Silencio Posts: 1487 | Registered: Sunday, February 10 2002 08:00 |