What Do You Think Spiderweb Software???

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one wonders, why not make it a game capable of being played on a LAN? Just round up your friends grab a switch and have insane fun! Wait, your friend lives on the otherside of the world? easy! use VPN or virtual private networking! Comwe on people! Cant anyone remember the days of starcraft, and the null modem cable?

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You know, come to think of it, it would not be impossible to make a Geneforge-style game multi-player (although making it MMORPG would be still another hurdle). Because it runs in realtime, and because turn-based multi-player combat DOES work, even though turn-based MMORPG antyhing doesn't, GF could do it. Avernum couldn't, but GF could.

Jeff still probably doesn't have the technical skills for it, by his own admission, and I'm not sure that it's a good use of his time (I'd rather he continue making huge, immersive-world games), but it would be possible.

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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
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Never say never.

It may be as simple as someone coming up with a hosting service for those who provide some content, or even another developer making the game and licensing with Spiderweb. Look at all the mods made for some games, and it's easy to see some people doing an online Avernum possibly.

Options include the MMORPG route with big changes, or Baldur's Gate-type multiplayer.
Posts: 8 | Registered: Thursday, May 6 2004 07:00
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The only reason I would say NEVER is Jeff's personality. He is rather hesitant to license anything. By which I mean he refuses to do it under nearly any circumstances. Oldbies in the Blades community have fun stories about this, stories that I would butcher because they're about fourth-hand coming from me.

But there is also the issue of the engine, which I raised in my last post. Avernum would have to shift further into the GF engine in order for this to work.

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I think every time this topic has been brought up before, what shuts people up is the money issue. Frankly, there's a good, sound reason no indie developers ever make successful MMORPGs -- it's because indie developers can't afford to run them without charging an arm and a leg to use them, and no one is going to buy from an indie developer if the product is that expensive.

What's more, with the kind of buggy POSes other Spidweb products have been allowed to remain (ex. BoE), I'd be frankly amazed if any such product didn't require anyone who used it to format their HDs once every two weeks. You don't just tool around with online products the way you tool around with offline ones; it's very dangerous if you know what you're doing, and Vogel's various answers boil down to a proud way of saying that he doesn't.

EDIT: Jeff Vogel doesn't do licensing. Trust me on this one: he can do it himself, sell it himself, and falsely advertise it himself (ask Alcritas about 'mail' or 'frau' when you next talk to him), or he can have you do it, sell it for you, and steal your soul for use in an a mighty, evil forge. (The next time you see Radiant, note his empty eyes, greenish skin, and continual attempts to eat your brain.) But he won't do a mix of the two, nor will he ever allow you to touch his code. I'd be willing to wager that he'd void himself if anyone ever released a modified version of the BoA editor officially.

[ Monday, May 31, 2004 09:24: Message edited by: CUSTER FOLGT DER MASCHINE ]

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I'd be willing to wager that he'd void himself if anyone ever released a modified version of the BoA editor officially.
I'm almost tempted to learn C just to see this happen. IMAGE(tongue00.gif)

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A Baldurs' Gate style-multiplayer game could be interesting. BG Multiplayer just connects directly with the other players (i.e. no server) which makes it vaugely possible.

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Posts: 612 | Registered: Saturday, October 13 2001 07:00
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I would think "IF" Avernum/exiles online was made, not saying it can or will be but...

I just think it would have to work somewhat like follows. Everyone controls one character, not a party. They can of course join up with others, but only within a certain level restriction.

A psuedo realtime system would be needed. With an autoretaliatory melee system, not unlike Tomenet if youve ever played. Wed need some macros to make spellcasting easier, along with item use.
Posts: 38 | Registered: Thursday, March 4 2004 08:00
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A MUD might also be doable within server limitations.

Actually, there was a third-party Exile-based MUD once. So far as I know, it died for lack of interest.

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Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00
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A MUD still requires someone to pay for a server, time spent coding, and constant support for the inevitable bugs produced. How many people are willing to pay, how much, and for how long?

?Alorael, who doesn't think a MUD is the answer. Besides, that would lose the Exile/Avernum feel, and the world alone isn't really all that impressive. Aside from the cave system, which isn't really that common an element, Ermarian screams generic fantasy.
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Eh? :confused:

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[ Monday, June 07, 2004 08:25: Message edited by: Arancaytar ]

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