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Bob's Big Date
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written Sunday, February 29 2004 14:44
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TAKE ME NOW YOU STUD -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire!
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written Sunday, February 29 2004 17:14
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Foaming at the mouth, Alec? I wasn't that fanatic about it, was I? I believe I said they would probably be tan, Middle Eastern-looking. Stem-cell research, well, I just keep thinking of Brave New World... and I said "God-guided evolution" for a reason; that is a prime example of the combination of science and religion. What kind of God would break his own laws? Maybe an omnipotent one? And I did say that he can if he wants to, which he does, if I'm right about God-guided evolution... Also, Alec, most people don't worship their pocketwatches. It's not the gender that's important, it's the respect. -------------------- And though the musicians would die, the music would live on in the imaginations of all who heard it. -The Last Pendragon TEH CONSPIRACY IZ ALL Les forum de la chance. Incaseofemergency,breakglass. Posts: 3351 | Registered: Saturday, April 6 2002 08:00 |
Bob's Big Date
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written Sunday, February 29 2004 17:35
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'It' is not a disrespectful term unless applied to a human entity. We don't call money 'he' or 'she' either, do we? As for stem-cell research, that arguement is closer to that against cloning -- quite frankly, I think I'd trade curing Parkinson's and giving quadrapalegics the ability to do the Charleston for some crackpot trying and failing to make superhumans any day. All scientific evidence says that humans came from Ethiopia or thereabouts; in other words, just about straddling the equator. The first humans would have been black as night and much hairier, and they would have gotten whiter by natural selection as they spread out. On top of that, you claimed they would have been white and evolved into blacks as time went on. The simple fact is that lightening skin is an advantage, whereas darkening skin is a survival trait. As for God breaking his own rules, it doesn't make any sense, as an omniscient, omnipotent entity, to make rules and then break them. If God is in fact all-knowing and all-powerful, he would have made rules that fit what he was going to end up doing anyway, not made arbitrary ones and ignored them later. (I use personal pronouns out of habit, not some contrived notion of respect.) [ Sunday, February 29, 2004 17:41: Message edited by: Djur ] -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, February 29 2004 17:55
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That is pretty much why I don't believe in "God-guided evolution." I mean, what kind of God would make the evolution thing just because when He could just create everything and be finished with it? Why would He make organisms suffer for millions of years for natural selection and stuff to occur? What Bible do you believe in SD? -------------------- -TEH BOOGEYMAN STRIKES AGAIN -------------------- And then there's always a Chance nearby... Posts: 245 | Registered: Tuesday, February 17 2004 08:00 |
Bob's Big Date
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written Sunday, February 29 2004 21:06
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quote: -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
This Side Towards Enemy
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written Monday, March 1 2004 09:17
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If what Jame's trying to say is that whether or not there is a god, organised religion is if not inherently bad then at least certainly not inherently good, then I agree with him. If that's not what he's saying, I reserve the right to wish he'd quit being so bloody didactic and start making logical arguments. -------------------- Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned I'll tell you my story, man Though I wish I'd never been born I'm loose at the seams, I've broken my dreams And my hand it shakes the pen Come on, come on now baby, Let the good times roll again Posts: 961 | Registered: Thursday, June 12 2003 07:00 |
Babelicious
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written Monday, March 1 2004 17:25
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Um, RC, you are aware that evolution is a CONTINUING process, and the earth CHANGES, and if God created everything "perfectly" it'd die the second the climate shifted? It's observable fact that suboptimal traits are required in a population for continued survival. As they say, "one man's trash is another's treasure." Old-earth creationism suffers greatly from this fact. The only way species could survive on an old earth as geologically active as ours would be either through evolution or through blatant divine intervention -- which puts the lie to free will. Young-earth creationism, of course, is absurd; it requires one to believe in a divine or infernal trickster with near-omnipotent powers bent on confusing humanity. Under those conditions, science loses all meaning and humanity might as well exist in barbaric superstition. -------------------- You are my precious thing Thing of speed and beauty, You are my precious thing As long as you remain beneath me -- Big Black Posts: 999 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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