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Originally written by Kelandon:

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Have you logic? {that isn't kind of offense, i'm realy curious.}
If you're really asking that question, that means you're stupid enough not to realize that a person could not conceivably answer no. If you're not really asking that question, then your parenthetical was a heap of excrement. I'm not sure which I believe more.

From you, as a student of Berkeley University, i have expected something more intellectual answer. But well, now i'll know that if person studying in that University, i shouldn't expect from him much brains. Damn, I begun to be like you in maners and thoughts. For all other: in previous post i was curios not about knowing of logic by Imban (becouse i reckon he knows. Maybe little, but anyway. ), but was it used. And if was, what kind?
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Generally copyright law and intellectual property are respected pretty seriously throughout most of the developed world. Yes, you would have to be in a fairly bizarre country for copyright law not to exist or be enforced.
[/quote]Again... well i think you now know what i think about you. BTW, i never said that USA is " a fairly bizarre country." or something like that. Why you think that you may say such thing about my country?
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What else do you want?
[/quote]What else? From this community(especially you) - N O T H I N G.
Now I with yours help understanded in the final shape, that i was talking with kids. Not with very smart ones, to be added. And have wasted so many time for nothing. Well now i learned something. For those, who gave me those lessons - thanks.
I wish you a lot of luck.

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prosto pizdec, kakie vi vse deystvitel'no tupie.(c)
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pojaluy deysctvitelno "Idite vi nahuy, poshli vi vse v jopy" (c)
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Originally written by Kelandon:

quote:
Originally written by +t:
Have you logic? {that isn't kind of offense, i'm realy curious.}
If you're really asking that question, that means you're stupid enough not to realize that a person could not conceivably answer no. If you're not really asking that question, then your parenthetical was a heap of excrement. I'm not sure which I believe more.

From you, as a student of Berkeley University, i have expected something more intellectual answer. But well, now i'll know that if person studying in that University, i shouldn't expect from him much brains. Damn, I begun to be like you in maners and thoughts. For all other: in previous post i was curios not about knowing of logic by Imban (becouse i reckon he knows. Maybe little, but anyway. ), but was it used. And if was, what kind?
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Generally copyright law and intellectual property are respected pretty seriously throughout most of the developed world. Yes, you would have to be in a fairly bizarre country for copyright law not to exist or be enforced.
[/quote]Again... well i think you now know what i think about you. BTW, i never said that USA is " a fairly bizarre country." or something like that. Why you think that you may say such thing about my country?
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What else do you want?
[/quote]What else? From this community(especially you) - N O T H I N G.
Now I with yours help understanded in the final shape, that i was talking with kids. Not with very smart ones, to be added. And have wasted so many time for nothing. Well now i learned something. For those, who gave me those lessons - thanks.
I wish you a lot of luck.

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prosto pizdec, kakie vi vse deystvitel'no tupie.(c)
PPS
pojaluy deysctvitelno "Idite vi nahuy, poshli vi vse v jopy" (c)
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I became tired talking with all of you. Have you remember what I asked? Yes,yes please look at top of this thread. Only TWO man posted something in fact mmm how it's in english? "post with valuable information". And what post most of you? Variation of 1 theme "Copyright is divine law. You bad, we good". Now talkng about Imban's post:
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Originally written by Imban:

Apparently, you come from some sort of country with no laws.In the United States of America, reverse-engineering proprietary software and distributing modified copies of said software is against the law. While the illegality of it is mostly based on how much the developer and/or publisher care, if they ask you to cease and desist, Americans must legally do so.
May I ask you some questions? How old are you? Have you logic? {that isn't kind of offense, i'm realy curious.} If in my country copyright is not law with 0 level priority, and in America it is true(well maybe not 0, but close to it), then my country have no laws? Where is your logic, i'm asking again?

About ban. You think that ban is something, that have a sense for me? All of you misunderstanding then 1 thing: you(well most of you, with some exceptions) all have nothing valuable for me. May be for now I too. But all of your's post make me think that you don't wish have anything from me. Well that yours decision. As I thought, it was a mistake to talk here.
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I became tired talking with all of you. Have you remember what I asked? Yes,yes please look at top of this thread. Only TWO man posted something in fact mmm how it's in english? "post with valuable information". And what post most of you? Variation of 1 theme "Copyright is divine law. You bad, we good". Now talkng about Imban's post:
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Originally written by Imban:

Apparently, you come from some sort of country with no laws.In the United States of America, reverse-engineering proprietary software and distributing modified copies of said software is against the law. While the illegality of it is mostly based on how much the developer and/or publisher care, if they ask you to cease and desist, Americans must legally do so.
May I ask you some questions? How old are you? Have you logic? {that isn't kind of offense, i'm realy curious.} If in my country copyright is not law with 0 level priority, and in America it is true(well maybe not 0, but close to it), then my country have no laws? Where is your logic, i'm asking again?

About ban. You think that ban is something, that have a sense for me? All of you misunderstanding then 1 thing: you(well most of you, with some exceptions) all have nothing valuable for me. May be for now I too. But all of your's post make me think that you don't wish have anything from me. Well that yours decision. As I thought, it was a mistake to talk here.
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Originally written by KernelKnowledge12:

If you do plan on making your own BoA Editor, please consider using the wxWidgets (fromerly wxWindows) framework to power your application, as it is an incredibly comprehensive, cross platform UI.
Thank you! At last something more valuable, than senseless talks about law(s)!
But well i'll not use that library. I reckon that what I'll gain from it will be much less that I'll spend...
My BoAE will be written in C# with using WinForms - FYI.

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Originally written by KernelKnowledge12:

If you do plan on making your own BoA Editor, please consider using the wxWidgets (fromerly wxWindows) framework to power your application, as it is an incredibly comprehensive, cross platform UI.
Thank you! At last something more valuable, than senseless talks about law(s)!
But well i'll not use that library. I reckon that what I'll gain from it will be much less that I'll spend...
My BoAE will be written in C# with using WinForms - FYI.

[ Tuesday, November 02, 2004 04:57: Message edited by: +t ]
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Originally written by Dancing With Myself:

You, sirs, have problems. And no, that's not flaming, just a fact. ^^
Surely we are. Everyone have problems. My work is kind of "understand problem - solve it" for your information. Only God, Nature and deadmans didn't have them. You know why? Yes, you right: because they lifeless. In light of all of that, i consider, that your post IS flame.
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Originally written by Dancing With Myself:

You, sirs, have problems. And no, that's not flaming, just a fact. ^^
Surely we are. Everyone have problems. My work is kind of "understand problem - solve it" for your information. Only God, Nature and deadmans didn't have them. You know why? Yes, you right: because they lifeless. In light of all of that, i consider, that your post IS flame.
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Originally written by Kelandon:

The scenarios are, obviously, .bas files. I would think that would be fairly obvious just from looking around at the files that come with the demo. But perhaps we didn't make this clear:

MAKING A NEW VERSION OF THE BOA APPLICATION, THE "SCENARIO EXECUTOR" AS YOU CALL IT, WOULD BE ILLEGAL.

Who said, that i have only demo version? I have a full one. And By the way, MAKING A NEW VERSION OF THE BOA APPLICATION WOULD _NOT_ BE ILLEGAL. Even in USA. Illegal will be spreading such application _and_ earning money for it. I'll not sell my Pocket PC version. May be I'll not even distribute it(or may be will. Anyway, it's illegal for you, and i think you will not use it as "law-abiding citizen". Am i right? :) .

Of course i CAN use Jeffs engine. But shurely I'll not do that. His code not only "smells", it is as a matter of fact, "stinks".

Well, no one have format specification. Bad. It will take more time create my own.

Actually you all was useless for me, but anyway thanks for your time(that, as you americans, call political correctness. isn't it? LOL)
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Originally written by Kelandon:

The scenarios are, obviously, .bas files. I would think that would be fairly obvious just from looking around at the files that come with the demo. But perhaps we didn't make this clear:

MAKING A NEW VERSION OF THE BOA APPLICATION, THE "SCENARIO EXECUTOR" AS YOU CALL IT, WOULD BE ILLEGAL.

Who said, that i have only demo version? I have a full one. And By the way, MAKING A NEW VERSION OF THE BOA APPLICATION WOULD _NOT_ BE ILLEGAL. Even in USA. Illegal will be spreading such application _and_ earning money for it. I'll not sell my Pocket PC version. May be I'll not even distribute it(or may be will. Anyway, it's illegal for you, and i think you will not use it as "law-abiding citizen". Am i right? :) .

Of course i CAN use Jeffs engine. But shurely I'll not do that. His code not only "smells", it is as a matter of fact, "stinks".

Well, no one have format specification. Bad. It will take more time create my own.

Actually you all was useless for me, but anyway thanks for your time(that, as you americans, call political correctness. isn't it? LOL)
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I knew that my english is poor. But i did'n knew how much. So I'll try say one more time, what i said but in more basic style.
1.0 I'm serching for BoA Scenario File Format. I mean specification(*.txt, *.pdf, ie _document_).
1.1 I CAN get specification from source of BoA. (I can do it even without sourcecode, FYI)But as i said earlier it's REALY time consuming. I don't have enough of free time to do that. And my time is too valuable to do that all day.
1.2 But if there is no specification, I'll spend my time to make it.
2. Using that specification, I'll make my own BoA Editor for Windows.
3. Using that specification, i'll write my own program for Pocket PC, that will be like BoA game itself. I.e. "scenario executor".
3.1 I'LL NOT PORT BOAEditor to Pocket PC. Becouse it's meaningless.
4. I'm REALY DON'T CARE ABOUT COPYRIGHT BY ANY MEANS. PLEASE DON'T POST HERE YOURS THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS LAW. THERE IS ONLY ONE MAN, WHICH THOUGHTS ARE IMPORTANT TO ME, JEFF VOGEL,NAMELY. I'M ASKING OTHERS DO NOT BOTHER.

Thank you for your time. Have you Blades of Avernum Scenario File Format Specification?
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I knew that my english is poor. But i did'n knew how much. So I'll try say one more time, what i said but in more basic style.
1.0 I'm serching for BoA Scenario File Format. I mean specification(*.txt, *.pdf, ie _document_).
1.1 I CAN get specification from source of BoA. (I can do it even without sourcecode, FYI)But as i said earlier it's REALY time consuming. I don't have enough of free time to do that. And my time is too valuable to do that all day.
1.2 But if there is no specification, I'll spend my time to make it.
2. Using that specification, I'll make my own BoA Editor for Windows.
3. Using that specification, i'll write my own program for Pocket PC, that will be like BoA game itself. I.e. "scenario executor".
3.1 I'LL NOT PORT BOAEditor to Pocket PC. Becouse it's meaningless.
4. I'm REALY DON'T CARE ABOUT COPYRIGHT BY ANY MEANS. PLEASE DON'T POST HERE YOURS THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS LAW. THERE IS ONLY ONE MAN, WHICH THOUGHTS ARE IMPORTANT TO ME, JEFF VOGEL,NAMELY. I'M ASKING OTHERS DO NOT BOTHER.

Thank you for your time. Have you Blades of Avernum Scenario File Format Specification?
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Not a whole trilogy(I have played in all Avernums 2-3 times. That enought for me :) ), but only Blades with their Free-to-use scenarios. And by the way, last thing what can stop me to port is copyright.
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Not a whole trilogy(I have played in all Avernums 2-3 times. That enought for me :) ), but only Blades with their Free-to-use scenarios. And by the way, last thing what can stop me to port is copyright.
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I see there peoples skilled enough to make their own Editor. But have anyone(Jeff Vogel, I'm asking you too) subj? I tried to understand it by examining sourcecode. I decided that it'll take too many time(Jeff your source is complitly mess. I still wondering: how do you make your projects to work?) Anyway if i'll get file format, soon there will be another PC version of BoAE. And my be at next spring i'll start port Avernum to Pocket PC. BTW, what do you think about that?

I hope you understanded me right.
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I see there peoples skilled enough to make their own Editor. But have anyone(Jeff Vogel, I'm asking you too) subj? I tried to understand it by examining sourcecode. I decided that it'll take too many time(Jeff your source is complitly mess. I still wondering: how do you make your projects to work?) Anyway if i'll get file format, soon there will be another PC version of BoAE. And my be at next spring i'll start port Avernum to Pocket PC. BTW, what do you think about that?

I hope you understanded me right.
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Scenario contest? in Blades of Avernum
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What is contest for?
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Hmmm, I successfully translated A1,A2 into Russian(partialy), and think that i'll translate BoA too.
I eaven possibly may release translation patches(but not now - my computer isn't working, but i'll repair it soon).
Why don't Jeff release versions for other languages? It can be easely done if he will make something like "Translation Studio"( for those, who can't do translation work by resource editor). So users will be able to make "language files", which can be posted in main spidweb's page. It is not hard work to make main BoA programm support multilanguage.

Don't hurt me for bad English it's not my native language.
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Will be other languages avialable in BoA(I mean in main program and scenaries)?
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This could be useful, maybe in General
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Hmm I think you don't understand me correctly. I DON'T use 'Arcane Teleport' while i'm playing(becouse it's not interesting to cheeting). I'm using it after game was fully ended, and there is some places, which unaccessible in game[ for example Abyss in A2] to investigate them.

But anyway using hex editor is much more generic(and interesting) approach, than using *bugs*.
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Or [as I] you can use a hex editor and instantly teleport to any place IMAGE(This could be useful, maybe_files/smile.gif)
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Blaster worm! in General
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Or may be there is no brilliant programmers and reverse engeneers, what use mac?
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"it attacks every 16th of the month." --- wrong.
windowsupdate.com DDoS _begins_ if there is day =>16th of any month
OR in 1th day of all months except SEPT, NOV, OCT, DEC.
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microsoft XP OS in Tech Support
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First of all : all music[and graph too] files IN main executable. And all of them *.wav. This means that it's VERY low chance that ALL music files corrupted.
This means, that there is your computer configuration problem.
Anyway on my WinXP Pro[ p2, 128 RAM, old sound, i740 video chipset] I've never ever have such problem.
Last note: there is almost impossible to answer to your question until no one have access to sourcecode. Only Jeff have, but he not too often look for his messageboard .

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microsoft XP OS in Tech Support
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Throw away your WinXP 'home editition' and install Proffessional one.
That will save lot of your 'psihealth'. And never buy anything with 'HOME' mark from MS.
"be sure to check from the Settings that Sounds are enabled".--rofl

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