Nether Arts
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, December 10 2006 19:30
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So, I'm playing Nethergate again for the umpteenth time (surprise, surprise), and I just finished finding all the Nether Arts spells. I do this every time I play, but I really wonder if it's worth the bother. I mean, if you pump your druidism high enough, Darts of Ice or Soul Lance are better than Clouds of Night and uses fewer SP. I've used Create Elixer a few times when I'm really in a bind, but I hate doing it because of the lost skill points. I rarely ever bother with summoning spells of any sort, so Wind Warriors and Call Hunt usually just sit there looking pretty on my spell list. When you get right down to it, Miraculous Revival is the only truly useful spell. It seems to me that the much-vaunted Nether Arts spells that are supposedly ultra-powerful are overrated. Anyone else find this to be true? [ Monday, December 11, 2006 13:11: Message edited by: Tyranimorian ] -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, December 10 2006 19:49
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It's about the journey, man. ;) -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, December 10 2006 19:58
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I've used the summoning spells occasionally when desperately in need of meat shields, but I basically agree. [Edit: I don't even use Miraculous Revival much. Lesser healing spells are usually adequate and cheaper.] —Alorael, who thinks Hero of Old should have been the Nether spell for War. The fact that you can start with it is just plain broken. (Yes, it's literally broken because you can only do it through an oversight, but still!) [ Sunday, December 10, 2006 20:04: Message edited by: Muriese, durmiese ] Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, December 10 2006 20:04
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quote:Agreed. That is probably my favorite Nethergate spell. -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Sunday, December 10 2006 21:10
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Was that spell basically the equivalent of Avatar? I'm trying to remember. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, December 10 2006 22:13
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Pretty much, yeah. -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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written Monday, December 11 2006 00:47
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More like Divine Warrior, really, since you could cast it on PCs other than yourself. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, December 11 2006 02:10
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Maybe Jeff will revise the spell list a bit. It has been years since Nethergate first came out and he's had plenty of feedback to work with both here and with the Avernum games. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, December 11 2006 11:57
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Hopefully. I'd settle for actually being able to use all the spells. Soul Lance was a great letdown. How did an entirely unusable spell slip through betas? —Alorael, who thinks Nethergate did fairly well on spell usefulness. The Beast Circle isn't great, but nearly all of the War, Healing, and Craft Circle spells have their moments to shine. Spirit is hit or miss, but at least it's exciting. Nether spells are the ironic exception. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, December 11 2006 13:02
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What's unusable about soul lance, then? Edit: I have just used it to hurt some Romans in the Spire of Ages. [ Monday, December 11, 2006 13:07: Message edited by: Micawber. ] -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Monday, December 11 2006 13:57
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-X- went Wind Warrior crazy in the underworld. he hasted, ran up ahead, cast five times, ran back, and waited. No threat at all. -------------------- May the fires of Undeath burn in your soul, and consume it. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, December 11 2006 14:03
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In the first version of Nethergate Soul Lance was a town mode only spell. This would be acceptable, though odd, but for the fact that you cannot target enemies in town mode. The spell was thus useful but entirely unusable. —Alorael, who at least thought it was some nice variety. Light in Exile was always usable but entirely useless. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |