Exile 2 value

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Are the old versions of Exile 2 of any value? I've got a shareware disk that has an old version with original graphics.
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The original graphics are already posted on the web, so I don't believe anyone will be willing to pay you for them.

See this thread:
Previous discussion of E2 original graphics.

[ Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:46: Message edited by: Micawber ]

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I wasn't looking to sell them I just wanted to know if the disk itself is worth anything.
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Originally written by sith1990:

I wasn't looking to sell them I just wanted to know if the disk itself is worth anything.
If it's that old that it has the original graphics, chances are barely anyone will have a system so low-powered it can play the games. I can't play Exile 1: Escape from the pit (the version off a shareware disk) at home anymore cause it's too old. So in answer to your question:
I SINCERELY DOUBT IT!

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Originally written by sith1990:

I wasn't looking to sell them I just wanted to know if the disk itself is worth anything.
Something's value = what people are willing to pay for it. In this case, probably nothing.

[ Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:24: Message edited by: Micawber ]

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There is also sentimental value, historical value, and aesthetic value. But the question has been answered. The graphics have been archived on the web, so there is nothing on that disk which is unique, rare, or precious to the people frequenting this topic.

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Not to mention the fact that, even if it were valuable, you couldn't legally sell it.
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AFAIK it's legal to sell secondhand computer software, provided you genuinely reassign ownership, i.e. you don't reserve a copy for your own use.

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In general, that's true. But shareware distributions tend to be a special case, as I understand it. Essentially, with a shareware distribution, you don't own any software. The publisher (or whoever holds the rights) is simply permitting you to use it. And since you don't actually own any rights to it, you can't sell it without permission from the publisher.

Or to put it another way, the files and the registration code are totally seperate. If you had some way to irrevocably transfer the code, presumably you could do that. But the files themselves are another matter - if the publisher distributes them for free, you can't generally sell them.

I'm probably not explaining it very well, and I'm not a lawyer so I could be wrong. But that's how I understand it.

Edit: Anyway, I just checked my E2 software license. It expressly prohibits distributing the software for profit in any form. Which definitely answers that question.

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You could probably find some legal loophole to give the software and sell the registration code, but that still requires a customer.

—Alorael, who suspects that Jeff would sell "classic" versions of the Exile games if there were a market. And at increased price, too.
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The legal stuff in this is old and for all of the other shareware games it says that you can sell them as long as they get full credit no game modifications and none of them are registered yet. You can always remove the Exile game if you know what you are doing with the disk.
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Originally written by sith1990:

The legal stuff in this is old and for all of the other shareware games it says that you can sell them as long as they get full credit no game modifications and none of them are registered yet.
Er, I don't know what shareware licences you've been reading. Most of the ones I've seen don't even permit including the software in a for-profit shareware compilation without prior written permission, let alone selling it on its own. They've been ruled legally binding in court, too; there's a famous test case on the issue.

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Originally written by sith1990:

The legal stuff in this is old and for all of the other shareware games it says that you can sell them as long as they get full credit no game modifications and none of them are registered yet.
Sounds a little confused. Generally they say that you can give them away for free as long as there are no modifications. And it should go without saying that that's totally different from selling it. Check the licenses carefully, I'm pretty sure that's what you'll find.
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Hmmm. All that mumbo jumbo bothers me. So I looked at the Avernum license. Part 1 says
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You may also transfer all your license rights in the Software, the backup copy of the software, the related documentation and a copy of this License to another party, provided the other party reads and agrees to accept the terms and conditions of this License.

And in part 2, it says
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2. Restrictions. ...You may not distribute the
Software for profit in any form
That means if you really, truely are sick of the game, you can sell it for up to what it cost you in the first place (including s&h). Just make sure that you erase all registered copies off all your computers.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

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Selling it for what you paid for it generates no revenue (net profit), but it does generate profit. I believe that would be illegal.

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Part 1 just seems to indicate that you can give it completely to someone else as if you bought it for them. You can recieve no compensation for this.

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