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MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 07:51 Profile Homepage #0
the artifacts in this game are bad, dont get me wrong cloak of the shadows, gloves of savagery and legs of the tyrant are great but everything else there is no point in making it like sunstone belt? worthless

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Corrupted One
Warrior
Member # 9099
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 15:05 Profile #1
Dunno. you answered your own question, so all i can do is give my opinion, which is basically the same as yours. Sunstone belt is definitely useless, and I guess you don't find any of the others helpful. But you should really ask one of the senior members, their answers will proubaly satisfy you more than mine.
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MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 18:15 Profile Homepage #2
Do you find any of the other artifacts useful eh?

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Synergy
Shaper
Member # 6292
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 18:15 Profile #3
GLOVES OF SAVAGERY — Perfected Gloves / Blood Poison / Essence-Infused Skin
(+6% Armor / +2 Strength / +2 Melee / +4 Quick Action / +2 Creation Strength)

Useful to pretty much any build.

IMPERVIOUS CAPE — Perfected Cloak / Purified Essence / Essence-Infused Skin
(+12% Armor / +5% To Hit Chance / +10% To Hostile Effects Resistance Of Creations)

This could be minimally helpful to a fighter/shaper combination, but there are better cloaks to wear instead.

LEGS OF THE TYRANT — Perfected Greaves / Blood Poison / Essence-Infused Iron
(+14% Armor / +8 Vampiric Touch / +5 Melee Weapons)

I like the Flameweaver Greaves better, but this is good for a fighter.

FLAMEWEAVER GREAVES — Perfected Greaves / Crystalline Fibers / Solidified Flame
(+16% Armor / +2 Battle Magic / +2 Fire Shaping / +20% Cold Resistance)

These are important for Fire Shaping if you don't want to invest expensive skill points into Fire Shaping. I made them as my Infiltrator in order to maximize skill point allotment, and they helped me make Ur-Drakons.

SHAPEMASTER BOOTS — Perfected Boots / Ur-Drakon Skin / Deep Focus Orb
(+3 Fire Shaping / +3 Battle Shaping / +3 Magic Shaping / +10% Hostile Effects Resistance Of Creations)

These are also important for shaping ability to avoid spending expensive skill points on shaping instead.

GIRDLE OF SUCCOR — Perfected Belt / Ur-Drakon Skin / Unmelting Ice
(+14% Armor / +2 Blessing Magic / +2 Healing Magic / +8% Creation Armor / +4 Hostile Effects Resistance Of Creations)

Pretty unuseful. Magic sorts (if not most sorts) will want the Girdle of Intelligence usually instead.

CLOAK OF THE SHADOWS — Perfected Cloak / Pure Crystal Shard / Purified Essence
(+10% Armor / +2 Leadership / +2 Mechanics / +2 Stealth / +1 Action Points)

This would be more useful if it were accessible much earlier in the game. However, that +1 Action Point can be combined with other gear to give you double action unhasted by late game. Very useful for the nasty bonus areas and the end game.

Overall, the artifacts are a bit disappointing and uneven, but about half of them are fairly useful at some point. It all depends which kind of character you are running, of course. Some benefit more than others.

-S-

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MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 18:18 Profile Homepage #4
No i think sunstone belt is crap anytime anywhere and shapemaster boots give +2 to everything at least for my comp

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Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
A: The sound of someone getting smacked upside the head.

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Synergy
Shaper
Member # 6292
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 18:34 Profile #5
SUNSTONE BELT — Grosch Pits — Perfected Belt / Deep Focus Orb / Unmelting Ice
(+14% Armor / +40 Radiance (Undead Bane) / +20% Fire Resistance / +20% Energy Resistance)

Yeah, this is really quite worthless, especially since no one has been able to demonstrate that Radiance actually has any observable effect against undead.

Can anyone else verify that the Shapemaster boots only add +2 to skills? I'd have thought I'd have noticed that or that someone would have pointed it out long ago if it were true.

-S-

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MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 18:36 Profile Homepage #6
:confused: well thats what is is for me

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Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
A: The sound of someone getting smacked upside the head.

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Dikiyoba
Councilor
Member # 6600
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 19:18 Profile Homepage #7
Originally by Synergy:

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Can anyone else verify that the Shapemaster boots only add +2 to skills? I'd have thought I'd have noticed that or that someone would have pointed it out long ago if it were true.
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The Talisman of Might isn't technically an artifact, but Dikiyoba found it very useful.
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MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 20:03 Profile Homepage #8
Yeah that plus 4 strength helps alot and vampric touch is nice and how do u show off your character in the boards?

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Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
A: The sound of someone getting smacked upside the head.

Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side and it binds the universe together.

Don't worry Alorael, custom titles are overrated.
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Thuryl
...b10010b...
Member # 869
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 22:29 Profile Homepage #9
quote:
Originally written by Synergy:

SUNSTONE BELT — Grosch Pits — Perfected Belt / Deep Focus Orb / Unmelting Ice
(+14% Armor / +40 Radiance (Undead Bane) / +20% Fire Resistance / +20% Energy Resistance)

Yeah, this is really quite worthless, especially since no one has been able to demonstrate that Radiance actually has any observable effect against undead.
I made it as a no-magic singleton because I needed the resistances, although when I wasn't fighting enemies that used fire or magic attacks I'm pretty sure I switched back to the Girdle of Endurance.

(It's also one of the earliest artifacts you can make. Depending on your perspective, that's either an advantage or a trap.)

[ Wednesday, August 08, 2007 22:30: Message edited by: Thuryl ]

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trogdor458
Apprentice
Member # 9664
 written Wednesday, August 8 2007 22:31 Profile #10
I always wondered about those hidden abilities like radiance and stealth, perhaps raidiance makes it less likely undead will attack you?
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Thuryl
...b10010b...
Member # 869
 written Thursday, August 9 2007 01:41 Profile Homepage #11
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Originally written by trogdor458:

I always wondered about those hidden abilities like radiance and stealth, perhaps raidiance makes it less likely undead will attack you?
Stealth reduces enemies' "sight" radius with respect to you, so you can get closer before they notice you. Oddly enough, it even works on mines.

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On second thought, it probably just causes more damage to the undead.

Oh wait, that's right, it does, that's what bane is all about.
That's probably what Radiance would do, if it worked, which it doesn't seem to, which is what we've been saying.

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MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Thursday, August 9 2007 02:12 Profile Homepage #12
but there is not very many undead i mean right now i can think of shades

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Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
A: The sound of someone getting smacked upside the head.

Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side and it binds the universe together.

Don't worry Alorael, custom titles are overrated.
Posts: 154 | Registered: Saturday, February 26 2005 08:00
trogdor458
Apprentice
Member # 9664
 written Thursday, August 9 2007 02:50 Profile #13
yeah...radiance doesnt sound that useful
stealth however...very much...and of course it would work on mines....they're creatures too you know
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MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Thursday, August 9 2007 12:48 Profile Homepage #14
well i think that in scale from 1 to 5 5 being the best 1 being the worst here wut i think the artifacts
GLOVES OF SAVAGERY — Perfected Gloves / Blood Poison / Essence-Infused Skin
(+6% Armor / +2 Strength / +2 Melee / +4 Quick Action / +2 Creation Strength)

IMPERVIOUS CAPE — Perfected Cloak / Purified Essence / Essence-Infused Skin
(+12% Armor / +5% To Hit Chance / +10% To Hostile Effects Resistance Of Creations)

LEGS OF THE TYRANT — Perfected Greaves / Blood Poison / Essence-Infused Iron
(+14% Armor / +8 Vampiric Touch / +5 Melee Weapons

FLAMEWEAVER GREAVES — Perfected Greaves / Crystalline Fibers / Solidified Flame
(+16% Armor / +2 Battle Magic / +2 Fire Shaping / +20% Cold Resistance)

GIRDLE OF SUCCOR — Perfected Belt / Ur-Drakon Skin / Unmelting Ice
(+14% Armor / +2 Blessing Magic / +2 Healing Magic / +8% Creation Armor / +4 Hostile Effects Resistance Of Creations)

CLOAK OF THE SHADOWS — Perfected Cloak / Pure Crystal Shard / Purified Essence
(+10% Armor / +2 Leadership / +2 Mechanics / +2 Stealth / +1 Action Points)

SHAPEMASTER BOOTS - Perfected Boots / Urdrakon Skin / Deep Focus Orb (+4% Armor / 2 to all kinds of shaping/ +20 Hostile Effects Resistance Of Creations)

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Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
A: The sound of someone getting smacked upside the head.

Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side and it binds the universe together.

Don't worry Alorael, custom titles are overrated.
Posts: 154 | Registered: Saturday, February 26 2005 08:00
MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Thursday, August 9 2007 12:54 Profile Homepage #15
oh yea the ratings whoops\
GLOVES OF SAVAGERY — Perfected Gloves / Blood Poison / Essence-Infused Skin
(+6% Armor / +2 Strength / +2 Melee / +4 Quick Action / +2 Creation Strength)
AWESOME IN ANY BUILD 5

IMPERVIOUS CAPE — Perfected Cloak / Purified Essence / Essence-Infused Skin
(+12% Armor / +5% To Hit Chance / +10% To Hostile Effects Resistance Of Creations)
kinda pointless 1.5

LEGS OF THE TYRANT — Perfected Greaves / Blood Poison / Essence-Infused Iron
(+14% Armor / +8 Vampiric Touch / +5 Melee Weapons
Great for infiltrator and servile 4

FLAMEWEAVER GREAVES — Perfected Greaves / Crystalline Fibers / Solidified Flame
(+16% Armor / +2 Battle Magic / +2 Fire Shaping / +20% Cold Resistance)okay for fire shaping 3

GIRDLE OF SUCCOR — Perfected Belt / Ur-Drakon Skin / Unmelting Ice
(+14% Armor / +2 Blessing Magic / +2 Healing Magic / +8% Creation Armor / +4 Hostile Effects Resistance Of Creations) Pretty bad 2

CLOAK OF THE SHADOWS — Perfected Cloak / Pure Crystal Shard / Purified Essence
(+10% Armor / +2 Leadership / +2 Mechanics / +2 Stealth / +1 Action Points)+1 action point is so awesome 4

SHAPEMASTER BOOTS - Perfected Boots / Urdrakon Skin / Deep Focus Orb (+4% Armor / 2 to all kinds of shaping/ +20 Hostile Effects Resistance Of Creations)Hmm i say a 3

Sunstone Belt (unknown recipe I never make these)
20% Energy res 20% Fire res 40 Radiance(in other words nothing) this sucks BAD 1

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Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
A: The sound of someone getting smacked upside the head.

Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side and it binds the universe together.

Don't worry Alorael, custom titles are overrated.
Posts: 154 | Registered: Saturday, February 26 2005 08:00
Synergy
Shaper
Member # 6292
 written Thursday, August 9 2007 15:17 Profile #16
Rolvas, please use the Edit button to fix or add to one of your posts, rather than make a new, largely redundant post. You probably didn't need to create a new thread on the subject either, but maybe that wasn't intentional. I'm going to delete it since you already have all the same info posted here in this thread where it is relevant.

-S-

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MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Thursday, August 9 2007 16:00 Profile Homepage #17
I always get gloves of savagery, cloak of shadows and legs of tyrant also if i dont get quicksilver boots i make shapemaster boots

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Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
A: The sound of someone getting smacked upside the head.

Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side and it binds the universe together.

Don't worry Alorael, custom titles are overrated.
Posts: 154 | Registered: Saturday, February 26 2005 08:00
Iffy
Canned
Member # 8014
 written Sunday, August 12 2007 06:36 Profile #18
Talisman of Might= :)
Girdle of Might= :)
Guardian Coke= :)
(sword that drops for the middle shaper in the "zone" before the swamps, forget name)= :)
Charms= :)

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Posts: 1799 | Registered: Sunday, February 4 2007 08:00
Thuryl
...b10010b...
Member # 869
 written Sunday, August 12 2007 18:40 Profile Homepage #19
quote:
Originally written by No more muffins:

Guardian Coke= :)
It's the real thing.

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Azuma Velius
Lifecrafter
Member # 7252
 written Monday, August 13 2007 02:48 Profile #20
Artifacts in G4 are not really that great and useful except for some..

One question: Why was the Emerald Chestguard removed?
Playing previous Geneforges made me addicted to that
big piece of glowing green metal..

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Iffy
Canned
Member # 8014
 written Monday, August 13 2007 10:17 Profile #21
I only knew it from A4.
But it was still the best in A4...

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Posts: 1799 | Registered: Sunday, February 4 2007 08:00
MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Monday, August 13 2007 15:12 Profile Homepage #22
[ Monday, August 13, 2007 15:19: Message edited by: MrRoivas ]

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Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
A: The sound of someone getting smacked upside the head.

Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side and it binds the universe together.

Don't worry Alorael, custom titles are overrated.
Posts: 154 | Registered: Saturday, February 26 2005 08:00
MrRoivas
Warrior
Member # 5550
 written Monday, August 13 2007 15:14 Profile Homepage #23
quote:
talisman of might= :)
Girdle of might= :)
Gaurdian coke= :)
Gaurdian Claymore= :)
I luv talisman of might, girdle of might is unessisary, I have no idea wut a gaurdian coke is and gaurdian claymore is nice but i like puresteel blade and puresteel soulblade

[ Monday, August 13, 2007 15:17: Message edited by: MrRoivas ]

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Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
A: The sound of someone getting smacked upside the head.

Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side and it binds the universe together.

Don't worry Alorael, custom titles are overrated.
Posts: 154 | Registered: Saturday, February 26 2005 08:00
Dikiyoba
Councilor
Member # 6600
 written Monday, August 13 2007 15:27 Profile Homepage #24
The Guardian Coke is probably the Guardian Cloak. Althrough a nice caffeine rush would be nice; those speed pods don't seem to have a long duration.

Use the quote button or copy and paste the text you want.

Dikiyoba.
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