eyebeast road help!
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Apprentice
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written Sunday, March 25 2007 18:08
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how do i cross the bridge in the NW corner? i killed the eyebeast, and smashed the machine (tried to turn the mines off without using precious living tools!) hope i didn't need that machine... i've played too much to go back now! LH Posts: 40 | Registered: Saturday, January 6 2007 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Sunday, March 25 2007 18:13
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You can't get there unless you helped the refugees in the fens get completely out of the swamp. If you had, that's where they would be. Dikiyoba. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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written Sunday, March 25 2007 18:55
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Smashing the machine will prevent you from completing the Help the Infiltrators quest and therefore cause you to miss out on two rather nice rewards, but it won't prevent you from finishing the game for either side. [ Sunday, March 25, 2007 18:58: Message edited by: Thuryl ] -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, March 26 2007 04:52
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help the infiltrators quest? I thought i had a kill the 5 infiltrators quest?! hmmmm. guess i can't cross that bridge then, huh? because i don't think i helped refugees get out of the swamp... maybe they attacked me first, but i'm pretty sure i killed them. :( I absolutely hate areas i can't get into! makes me want to start over. LH Posts: 40 | Registered: Saturday, January 6 2007 08:00 |
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written Monday, March 26 2007 04:57
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quote:If you're going pro-Shaper you get a quest from someone in Poryphra Ruins to help the infiltrators instead of killing them. (Or you can help them and then kill them to get both rewards.) quote:There was one group in Shaper Camp Gamma and another in Aziraph Rebel Camp. If you've been going pro-rebel the whole game you wouldn't have been able to reunite both groups and get them out. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Monday, March 26 2007 04:57
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It sounds like you might be playing a pro-Rebel game, and if you have been doing so consistently enough, you will not have been able to get into Shaper Camp Gamma in the fens, and will not have been able to help the refugees there. You have to skirt the fence or play two games with different loyalties to go evertwhere in this game. G4 is worth a second game though, doncha think? But I'm with you—I hate missing anything in a game too. I missed a good number of things in my first game, one reason being because of all the door-opening levers Jeff hid behind pillars. -S- -------------------- A4 Items • A4 Singleton • G4 Items • G4 Forging • G4 Infiltrator • NR Items • The Lonely Celt Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, March 26 2007 06:17
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quote:i thought i was playing both sides of the fence pretty good, but i admit, i've been a little more loyal to the rebellion because i think the shapers are so strong, i really wanted a challenge at the end. (i'm assuming there's gonna be a big battle down the road?) My problem was i didn't realize there was a Camp Gamma until well into the 4th level of the game! I just completely missed it after completing the 3rd level... I went back trying to locate any shops that might have shaping tools for sale and that's when i discovered a whole area i completely missed! By the time i finally entered Camp Gamma, everyone just attacked me, and they were disgustingly easy to wipe out by this point (having cleared about 80% of the 4th level). I gotta admit, I'm not doing the best job at playing both sides... my philosophy has been: 1)leave the shops alone since i need to sell the items i find. 2) kill everything elsle! LH Posts: 40 | Registered: Saturday, January 6 2007 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, March 26 2007 06:19
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quote:Agreed. I love the Infiltrator walk through. As soon as i'm done (and at this rate it will be another 3 weeks since i only play on the weekends) I will restart as a different character and max out my spellcraft and mechanics early on... basically following the Infiltrator walk through. thanks guys! LH Posts: 40 | Registered: Saturday, January 6 2007 08:00 |
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written Monday, March 26 2007 13:09
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quote:Did you ever get the papers from Alwan after the Moseh quest? You have to do so before leaving Illya Province if you want Camp Gamma to be friendly. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, March 26 2007 14:33
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nope... i think i might have killed Alwan. He seemed like a prick to me! oh well. mental note to self: Dont kill everyone next time! LH Posts: 40 | Registered: Saturday, January 6 2007 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, March 26 2007 18:15
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You can't kill Alwan until chapter 5. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, March 26 2007 18:21
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quote:Not so my friend! (at least i THINK i'm still in chapter 4.) 2 areas east of where Litalia;s quarters are: Alwan is in the middle and runs away when you approach... I stationed two rothgoths at the eastern edge of and chased him down and managed to kill him before he left. Of course... maybe i AM in chapter 5. LH Posts: 40 | Registered: Saturday, January 6 2007 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Monday, March 26 2007 19:23
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During the beta testing, I pointed out to Jeff that I had killed Alwan, Miranda, and all the shapers in Poryphra Ruins, but then they showed up again, quite alive, later in the game. He explained that they are supposed to be unkillable. After that, they became much harder to kill. They are not, however, impossible to kill. I should go try it with my Infiltrator again now, come to think of it. I find it unlikely Alwan is beatable in Rivergate Keep, however. Maybe a Lifecrafter with a horde of cryoas could manage it. Has anyone ever done it? -S- -------------------- A4 Items • A4 Singleton • G4 Items • G4 Forging • G4 Infiltrator • NR Items • The Lonely Celt Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00 |
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written Monday, March 26 2007 23:05
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quote:Actually, he did make them unkillable. They run away once you get them down to 1 HP. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, March 27 2007 00:59
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Huh. Well, apparently Lennyhipp thinks he experienced otherwise. If one could lure and trap Alwan and/or Miranda in one of the buildings and block the doorway, would they stay at 1 HP indefinitely? -S- -------------------- A4 Items • A4 Singleton • G4 Items • G4 Forging • G4 Infiltrator • NR Items • The Lonely Celt Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, March 27 2007 06:38
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but that's what i'm saying... i prevented him from running away! Although i suppose i'm confusing Alwan with someone else... several of the characters look EXACTLY like Alwan. Then again there's a shaper in blue robes as soon as you enter the fourth chapter (i think it's 4 and not 3) and he's strutting around pretty much saying "i won't kill you now, but i'll be watching you!" and so I said "screw it, i'll try killing him now if he's threatening me!" and he puts up a good fight but when he gets real low, he runs, (and runs fast) and escapes to the north. Well it took me about six times and 2-3 of those tries he is down to less than 10HP before he escapes, but then i got smart and after whittling him down, and just before he runs, i sent 2 drayks to the N edge of the screen and waited for him there. Killed him too... just like i'm 90% sure i killed Alwan. That was about a week ago, so i'm not sure i have my game saved anymore, but i can try and check. LH Posts: 40 | Registered: Saturday, January 6 2007 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, March 27 2007 12:45
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quote:Yeah, Guardian Koerner looks exactly like Alwan. He's probably who you killed. I know that it's possible to kill Shaper Grim, but that's because he doesn't show up anywhere else. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, March 28 2007 05:55
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UPDATE: As many of you already guessed... It wasn't Alwan that I killed. I remember during this epic battle in P. Ruins that a "general Alwan" was making creations... then at the end, the toughest of the S.O.B.s ran away and I thought i finally managed to kill him... Not the case. I didn't have the game saved any more, so I re-loaded an older game and it took me about 2 hours to confront this "Alwan" again just to prove to myself i wasn't imagining things. Turns out it was Agent Miranda! And, I'm also certain now that I DIDNT kill her either! I know i got her down to below 10HP and then hit her with a Drayk... never noticed she must have slipped off the screen. I know this now because last night i played the area 4 or 5 times trying different things. You can see here how I blocked the doorway so she couldn't escape... but she eventually cast FEAR and managed to break through:  Then I tried a different technique, after getting her down below 20HPs, i surrounded her so she couldn't run, and tried biting her to death... Guess what? She must have been using Sarsparilla's editor herself because she didn't even cast a spell of regeneration or healing and her HP STILL jumped 100points! I never knew a character besides yourself that ate pods during battle! :)  So yeah, I couldn't kill her either. Alwan and Miranda =2, Lenny =0! LH The other shaper in the blue robes that i was talking about was shaper Horis. He wanted to run away, but after a few re-tries i managed to kill him before he managed to get off screen! [ Wednesday, March 28, 2007 09:56: Message edited by: Lennyhipp3 ] Posts: 40 | Registered: Saturday, January 6 2007 08:00 |