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AuthorTopic: movement points
Raiden
Apprentice
Member # 6111
 written Saturday, November 5 2005 02:50 Profile #0
i just started to use plate mail on my char and hes movement went from 4 to 3 can i get it back to 4 without removing platemail?
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Thralni
Master
Member # 5977
 written Saturday, November 5 2005 03:22 Profile Homepage #1
Yes you can. When training, you should invest points in either defense or hardiness. i think hardiness was the one for Avernum 1 2 and 3, and denfense the one for BoA. You can look at the description of the two skills, and see by which it says something about AP. Invest in that skill. Every two invested points will reduce encumbrance with 1 point, letting your Ap rise again from 3 to 4.

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Ik3
Apprentice
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 written Saturday, November 5 2005 10:55 Profile #2
Strength also works, I think.

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Raiden
Apprentice
Member # 6111
 written Saturday, November 5 2005 14:51 Profile #3
can i get it over 4 without items like boots of speed or haste ?
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Kelandon
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 written Saturday, November 5 2005 15:35 Profile Homepage #4
Fast on Feet offers an occasional bonus, but that's about it.

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Ephesos
Law Bringer
Member # 4153
 written Saturday, November 5 2005 18:48 Profile Homepage #5
Don't forget Quick Strike (though that's just in A3 and BoA, I believe). But then again, that takes a while to get.

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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Saturday, November 5 2005 23:28 Profile Homepage #6
I think Quick Strike first appeared in BoA. I can't recall having it in A3.

—Alorael, who would like to point out the eminent utility of Haste. There's no better way to get AP!
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Kelandon
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Member # 4045
 written Sunday, November 6 2005 10:31 Profile Homepage #7
I thought Quick Strike just made you act sooner, not have more AP.

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Ephesos
Law Bringer
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 written Sunday, November 6 2005 11:10 Profile Homepage #8
I believe Quick Strike does both, but Dexterity is an easier way to act sooner. However, it appears that I was wrong and Quick Strike is only in BoA. That is, if it's in A3, I couldn't find it in my ridiculously-advanced save file.

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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, November 6 2005 15:28 Profile Homepage #9
It's only in BoA, and it gives you a chance of extra AP. I've found Fast on Feet more reliable with any level of Quick Strike that I could reasonably get with my party.

—Alorael, who likes Fast on Feet a great deal. 2 attacks per round once in a while are very nice, and it makes the trick of waiting before kicking down the door even more effective.
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Thuryl
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Member # 869
 written Sunday, November 6 2005 15:37 Profile Homepage #10
On the other hand, Fast on Feet gives only 1 extra AP while Quick Strike gives 2. Furthermore, Fast on Feet uses up a trait slot, while Quick Strike just takes a bunch of skill points to meet the prerequisites. The AP bonuses are also cumulative, so you can always go for both.

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The Immortal
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Member # 4
 written Sunday, November 6 2005 21:51 Profile Homepage #11
Magi can get 6AP from AP-boosting items.
EDIT: Or alternatively, you could give magi high DEX to make them more difficult to hit and quicker-acting in combat.

[ Sunday, November 06, 2005 21:53: Message edited by: Trrr's Mrtr ]

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Thuryl
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Member # 869
 written Sunday, November 6 2005 23:42 Profile Homepage #12
Several posts on this topic inadvertently posted in another thread instead of this one, quoted here for your edification:

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UBl8
Blademaster
Member # 335

The difference between 5 AP and 6 AP and even 7 AP is usually negligible. It's the difference between 4 and 5 that really makes a difference.

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Member # 869

Wrong topic, Alorael? [Razz]

Trrr's Mrtr
Trademark
Member # 4

And you're wrong to boot. 6 AP is very significant to magi.

And, believe this or not, 9 AP is available.

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Member # 869

Perhaps we could keep this discussion to this topic where it belongs?

(Although, TM, I'm not entirely sure how a mage would get Quick Strike in the first place, considering the prerequisites. [Razz] )

NaNoWriMo
A Very Important Date
Member # 2984

A merge/split function would be very handy for moving posts between topics. [Smile]

Jumpin' Salmon
½ Man, ½ Amazing
Member # 5755

In A2 I used Divine Warrior on my mage and managed to have 12 AP. Not sure how though, and it only lasted a couple of rounds before he was back to two spells, and then 1.

It was probably because I used the character editor to gawd the party. Yeah.

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Member # 869

The reason for that is that Divine Warrior gives the Divine Aid status effect, which doubles your AP. But as I said, this belongs in the other topic. *points in the direction of my previous post*


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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Monday, November 7 2005 08:59 Profile Homepage #13
Oops.

I ignore Quick Strike for mages because I've never gotten it for mages. I also don't give my mages Fast on Feet. While 6 AP is the critical amount for magic, it's not something I'm able to get without hasting.

—Alorael, who rarely wants to cast two spells in one round with one caster anyway. He's too stingy with his spell points, and by the time he has enough to go wild, the magic usually isn't necessary.
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