Strange occurances

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Warrior
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Yes, i have a bunch of strange occurances in A2 (unregisterd version.)

1st (and possibly most annoying) Is the Ruined fort, where the hostile Vahnantai (sp?),Ghouls and zombies, are. There's a Wheel that requires a hexagonal bar, the only ones i find, on the left side of the screen (i cant reach the right)
Are the bent ones.

2nd, (and possibly the least important) Is the reasoning behind the realtion of the 'worth' of the item, and the selling price. How does that work, and how can i sell for higher?

[ Saturday, March 19, 2005 14:26: Message edited by: avernum master ]

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Shaper
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1.You can find a hexagonal bar in the “Watery Ruins”, south west of the “Ruined River Fort”. Battle the hydras, it will be in the north west corner.

2. Each shop has a different buying selling ratio. Compare prices at different shops before selling potentially valuable items.

[ Saturday, March 19, 2005 14:49: Message edited by: Dolphin ]
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Ok, thanks alot, i didnt go there earlier, because my people were at low MP.

New occurances.

I've played A3, thing is, The GIFTS (Giant Inteligent Friendly Talking Spiders) Are down in lower avernum in A2.

In A3, the Gifts of the isle of (cant remember the name, cochroaches place.)Say that they used to live down there, when you go to the ToM if you open one of the doors, you find a GIFTS in there. So where did these things come from? Are they in A1?

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Shaper
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In A1 the GIFTS are north west of Fort Draco. As far as I remember they didn't say ware they came from.
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Warrior
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Thanks alot Dolphin.

This is simply my old thread brought back, strange stuff.

The other thing, which i neglected to place in my last post, is that there was a tower, before the forts, called 'Barrier Tower' what is it?

[ Saturday, March 19, 2005 19:10: Message edited by: avernum master ]

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Law Bringer
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You can get a higher selling price for your items by raising your skill in Barter. You can't raise the skill by training until you buy a level of it for the character, and you can buy levels from Tor in his farm east of Fort Draco. It's more useful to buy five levels for everyone from Tor than to spend skill points on it.

—Alorael, who can't remember the exact equation for Barter and selling prices. The full 20 points from five purchased ranks to all four characters isn't useful because the max price is capped. Somewhere around 17 ranks might be the optimum.
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the barrier tower is an important place later in the game. until then, i dont think you can enter it before that (at least not without getting unlock doors 3 and dispell field 3 by the editor).

SPOILER

inside you find a magician circling around the exact same guy, only he is imprisoned in a rune circle. one of them is a demon who pretends being his own guard mage and both will tell you the other one is the demon... then you can decide whom to help. or do nothing.
i think you have to help the right one to get what you came for, a book on teleportation, which you need to destroy the empire mass teleporter (one of the 3 game-winning quests).
was there something more? dont remember.

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Shaper
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inside you find a magician circling around the exact same guy, only he is imprisoned in a rune circle. one of them is a demon who pretends being his own guard mage and both will tell you the other one is the demon... then you can decide whom to help. or do nothing.
i think you have to help the right one to get what you came for, a book on teleportation, which you need to destroy the empire mass teleporter (one of the 3 game-winning quests).
was there something more? dont remember.
If I am not mistaken you don't have to help anyone, and shouldn't. Just ask the mage about the book, so most likely you have to know about the book in the first place. Once you get to the tower save your game before doing anything, and read the walkthrough if you need to.
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Originally written by avernum master:

I've played A3, thing is, The GIFTS (Giant intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders) Are down in lower avernum in A2.

In A3, the Gifts of the isle of (cant remember the name, cochroaches place.)Say that they used to live down there, when you go to the ToM if you open one of the doors, you find a GIFTS in there. So where did these things come from? Are they in A1?

If you talk to all the spiders in A3, one of them (his name is Spider, if that helps) tells you they started out in Avernum, where they met some nice adventurers. But then they went on a Great Journey out of the caves led by the chief spider, where they have settled on Bigail.

The GIFTs are also around in Nethergate; they pass through the nethergate at the end of the game (maybe into the Avernum universe?)

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That would be strange.

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Just a quick notation on the point im about to make, it is an UNREGISTERED VERSION. This means, i CANNOT use the editor, other than for the base purposes. (no add features, other than gold+rep)

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Shaper
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I see, than you will not be visiting the Barrier Tower. You wont be able to return to Avernum via the Tower of Magi until you register.
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Avernum master: If you ever get a chance, play the demo for Nethergate. It's fun and you'll find a place in the demo where you'll meet some old friends of yours from A1-A3. :)

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Originally written by behind stingy cactus:

Avernum master: If you ever get a chance, play the demo for Nethergate. It's fun and you'll find a place in the demo where you'll meet some old friends of yours from A1-A3. :)
I seem to recall something about a hidden dungeon. But it might have been for A2.

But as for the comment about GIFTS, are they the same crazy brown yellow things that all have the name of spider?

As well, i cant seem to do the test of patience, i cant get the stone block throught the watery room

Is it possible for anyone to aid me with this?

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There is a hidden dungeon of sorts in A2 and a better but more bland one in A3.

Yes, the GIFTS are the Giant, Intelligent, Friendly, Talking Spiders. They're neat!

For the test of patience, I shall point you to Schrodinger's FAQ.

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Walk along the path, ignore the wheel, then make it to the lever. Pull it, and pilot it out to the water area, and take the upper path. I'll let you figure this out, but it's not too hard. Then just keep pushing the block up the stairs. The block won't fall off the cliff either. Move back onto the rune, and uh oh! Just push it south through the secret door. Jump down after it, and move it back onto the rune. That's it.
—Alorael, who is always happy to copy someone else's work, especially for the test that he has never managed to solve.

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I still cant seem to make it get through the stupid chasm room. However, i am told to go to Elgi or Egli or someplace like that, to remove the dread curse i recieved as i could not find Dahris(sp?)-Bok's resting place, and believed that it was not important. Where is this? Is it accessible in the Demo?

As well, i normally grab anything i feel is of value, at the moment, i cant find anyplace to sell my spoils. So, i store anything, i dont need, or wont sell, but i cant find anywhere to do this. There is an empty house or two in Avit, would it be safe there?

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Law Bringer
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Egli is on the big lake in the middle of the Vahnatai Lands, and you can reach it via a ferry southeast of Avit, but there's no one there who can remove Dread Curse. You need to go to the Tower of Magi for that. The Tower isn't accessible in the demo, so you're out of luck.

You can leave your loot anywhere in any town. It won't disappeaer and nothing will take it. However, you could also just find someone who will buy it. I'm almost positive there's someone who will in Mancuso, and there are probably other buyers in Olgai and Egli.

—Alorael, who recommends exploring all of the vahnatai Lands that you can (safely) reach and visiting the towns. There are nice shops, nice quests, and interesting things.
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Alright, i found it, and completed the acursed test of patience, i hate that thing for its overwhelming simplicity!

Also I hate the way in which you profer the
small note at the end of your post!

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Well, having no where else to go, i recently picked up the original Avernum demo!

And i am having trouble, what is the purpose of the spiral crypt? How in the world do i open the door to the crypt near Motrax's Cave?
And, is there an 'easy' or 'easier' way to get to Athron?

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1) The Spiral crypt holds a brooch, I believe. Make it to the center and search the bodies.

2) Wait until the first day of the month- the door will open. Alternatively, come back with Unlock 3.

3) I don't think so. Check Avernum Annotated Maps to be certain.

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Originally written by avernum master:

Well, having no where else to go, i recently picked up the original Avernum demo!

And i am having trouble, what is the purpose of the spiral crypt? How in the world do i open the door to the crypt near Motrax's Cave?
And, is there an 'easy' or 'easier' way to get to Athron?

yeah there is an easier way

BUILD LEVELS UP!!!!!
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Originally written by StelarBoy:

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Originally written by avernum master:

Well, having no where else to go, i recently picked up the original Avernum demo!

And i am having trouble, what is the purpose of the spiral crypt? How in the world do i open the door to the crypt near Motrax's Cave?
And, is there an 'easy' or 'easier' way to get to Athron?

yeah there is an easier way

BUILD LEVELS UP!!!!!

Very helpful! NOT!

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i believe its quite easy to get to athron.
ill have to check on my old savegames however (if i still have them), so ill edit when i know.

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Well, its not that, is there one way with, I dont know, "fewer" enemies, less drakes? SOMETHING?

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Well, i have officially given up on aid from people other than those who helped me earlier.

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