A3: The first party of explorers.

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Shaper
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Yes the larger teleporter was not yet functional, however it would not be too difficult to send a single soldier through at a time. It would be easy to send thousands through within a couple hours.

Hmmm, maybe we killed all their forces when they were sent to Avernum. They possibly didn’t help their citizens because they had barely enough soldiers to hold on.

Just for the sake of saying it, it would not have been very difficult of over through the throne. I wonder if the common folk would have supported that, seeing as we were their protectors.
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I think the rationalization for the Empire's responce (or lack thereof) to the plagues was that Prazac was concerned about maintaining an effective quarantine. Presumably, if there's a way for soldiers to get in, there's a way for monsters to get out.

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Law Bringer
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Besides, Avernum 3 wouldn't be half as much fun with huge armies of Empire soldiers tearing apart the plagues. What would be the point of the game?

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There is nothing to suggest that the 1st group were a bunch of incompentant amateurs. They may well have been an elite group of highly trained killing machines. However they are not the prodigously gifted folk of legend that our parties quickly prove themselves to be, then who is?

We wipe out hideous, plagues that have over-whelmed the combined efforts of entire continents; destroy beasts of darkness they have reigned with terror for decades and uncover long lost mythical treasures than many have spent thier entire lives searching for, in futile.

Don't be so hard on the 1st party (God rest thier souls), we're just different class.

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The first party of explorers were probably well equipped, but too careless. They thought they were the best of the best, the creme of the crop, but they went their different ways, and died one by one.

Either that or there was a plauge of Dragons and the dragons killed all of them and framed cochroaches and slimes.

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quote:
Originally written by Holy Toenail4.333333....:

The first party of explorers were probably well equipped, but too careless. They thought they were the best of the best, the creme of the crop, but they went their different ways, and died one by one.

Either that or there was a plauge of Dragons and the dragons killed all of them and framed cochroaches and slimes.

yeah i really like that. The first party never had the Avernum editor! MUAHAHHAHA! Anyways, wow...

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Shaper
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Maybe they would have done better had they remained a group.

While on the topic of their equipment, how long did everyone carry the Xian Scull around? That thing spoke up at some really bad times.
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They would have probably died by Dark Wurms or Empire assasssins

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Law Bringer
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quote:
Originally written by Dolphin:

Maybe they would have done better had they remained a group.

While on the topic of their equipment, how long did everyone carry the Xian Scull around? That thing spoke up at some really bad times.

That thing could well have been their doom...

*cue 4 adventurers silently sneaking through a dark tunnel*

Elsner: (whispering) Don't make a noise, or the Ogres will hear us and we're dead.

Xian Skull (loudly yelling): HEY FOLKS, I'M A TALKING SKULL, AIN'T THAT GREAT?!

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Well, that could be one reason, but the fact that they split up was propably the cause of their unsuccesfulness. Seriously, play the game trough with a singleton without dying and reloading even once, and then call the first party amateurs.

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Why did X create the Xian Skull, or the Xian Plant, for that matter? What's really the point of either of them?

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Law Bringer
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X has a tenured academic position. He's not required to be useful anymore. He has time, resources, and immense magical powers, and he can make magical multiplying plants if he pleases.

—Alorael, who would really like to know what Xian items Tucker still has. Could there be an Xian Wand of anvil flinging?
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Law Bringer
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Certainly it must be something good if it was able to make up for the rest of the crap they got and allowed him to survive...

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Shaper
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I didn't equipped any of the Xian stuff (except the scull, I kept hoping it would say something useful eventually.) It all seemed to do more harm than good. X made it all sound like great stuff. He was very powerful, surly he could have created things that would not diminish the wearer.

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Law Bringer
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X has a weird sense of humor, if I remember correctly.

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quote:
Originally written by Daryl Mycroft [Arancaytar:
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X has a weird sense of humor, if I remember correctly.
The kind only the most talented and demented of wizards can muster. 20,000 volt handbuzzers, anyone? Anvils above the door, mayhaps?
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Actually, the fact that no one seems to make it through the game without dying a couple times raises a good point.

You can't cast Raise Dead on yourself.

Splitting up was the worst thing the party could have done. Maybe they would have done alright in pairs, but going each his own way was a stupid thing to do.

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Shock Trooper
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I always thought the lack of troops was particially due to the Empire lacking an "adequite" leader in the eyes of most of the nobles and other high ups, it seemed like Empress Prazac was struggling to maintain power and control after the death of Emperor and the failed war with Avernum, I suspect there was alot of serious political whatnots going on in the background.

As for the why the first expedition was slaughtered, the following conversation may explain why.

Solberg "hmm, I can't remember, did we tell that first expedition not to stare directly into the sun?"

X "hmmm ... well ... we taught them about trees ... and how to get hit by a fireball .... no, can't say we told them that"

Solberg "Uh well, maybe next time eh?"

[ Friday, July 22, 2005 12:23: Message edited by: Mortimer ]

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Valorim was a backwoods continent, and there were not many troops there to begin with. And with the destruction of the Keep of Tinraya, they decided that they would basically just abandon Valorim to its fate unless/until they could find out what was creating the monsters and how they could stop it.

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