(A3) Under Tinraya- Editor Got Me In Trouble?
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 12:40
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Okay, so at one point I made it under the Keep before I had beaten the golems. After being locked in the bare cell for 2 days, the popup message happened, the wall slid away and I sent one of my characters through the portal. After having them go along a bit, I remembered that I needed to beat the golems first, so I used the editor to reunite my party & take them out of town. Now I'm all done with the golems, and I'm under the Keep again. Same deal with the cell, except now I CANNOT walk through the portal. Whenever I try to, nothing happens. The popup menu to send a character in doesn't appear, just nothing. Am I totally screwed here? Do I have start all over again? I didn't backup my savefile. Any help you could give would be much appreciated... Posts: 7 | Registered: Tuesday, December 28 2004 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 12:46
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You may very well be in some trouble. Two things: 1) You don't have to beat the golems before going through the Keep of Tinraya. 2) Always back up your save file before mucking with it in the editor. There's a reason it tells you to do that. That said, let me see if I can find a solution to this. I'll edit this message in a little bit. EDIT: If there is a way, I sure can't find it. It looks like the portal is handled by an SDF, which means you can't enter it more than once. I don't think there's much you can do from the point that you're at. Do you have an earlier save file at all? [ Tuesday, December 28, 2004 12:55: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 12:56
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It would appear that this person had the same problem (I can't be sure, the writing is poor, but I think it's what they were trying to say...) http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=17;t=001366#000003 Yes, I should have backed it up, but in all my years of playing (starting back when Exile 2 came out! Oh it's been fun) I've never had a problem with the editor, so I just stopped doing it. Bad, bad Nicole. At any rate, thanks for looking. (I'm in Santa Rosa, so we're almost neighbors. In fact, I was in Berkeley yesterday...) Posts: 7 | Registered: Tuesday, December 28 2004 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 12:58
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Oh no! I've only got one save file :( Well hmph. Perhaps I should email Jeff & see if there is anything that can be done? Posts: 7 | Registered: Tuesday, December 28 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 13:17
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I don't think even Jeff could help you. Your stuck, and I think there's nothing you, or anyone else, can do about it. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 13:20
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I very much doubt Jeff cares. In fact, hes notorious for not caring. In fact send him an email, just on the chance that he answers. That should cause quite a stir. Ho ho. -------------------- "But The Damage is Irreversible" Posts: 358 | Registered: Monday, October 27 2003 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 13:29
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Oh well, I won't bother then. What a shame... Posts: 7 | Registered: Tuesday, December 28 2004 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 14:44
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He's notorious for not updating his games, which is extremely different from not responding to individual customers who need help. I don't know if he can help, but it's probably worth e-mailing him, especially if you don't have any earlier save file at all. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 15:59
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Awesome. I went ahead and emailed, we'll see what happens. I'll post if/with an answer. Thanks for your help, with me luck! Posts: 7 | Registered: Tuesday, December 28 2004 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, December 28 2004 17:14
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I'm pretty sure that he already said that he doesn't remember the A3 SDFs anymore. You're probably out of luck. —Alorael, who is a great advocate of the daily save file. Unless a few KB of space matter to you, never save over your old games! Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, December 29 2004 05:55
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If he replies now ill be severely imbaressed. -------------------- "But The Damage is Irreversible" Posts: 358 | Registered: Monday, October 27 2003 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, December 29 2004 07:01
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He replies to me..... sometimes..... -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Friday, December 31 2004 09:09
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Yeah, he replied within a few hours. Very polite, but informed me that basically, I'm screwed. I have to start from the very beginning. Everyone's sure there's no way to hack it or fix it? I'm so dissapointed now... Posts: 7 | Registered: Tuesday, December 28 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, December 31 2004 19:47
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Let this be a lesson Nicole. When Burma Shave tells you things, you should really listen. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Sunday, January 2 2005 03:46
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is it possible to undo sdfs by setting the done stuff flag id to 0? -------------------- OH MY GOD IT'S THE FUNKY ****!!! Posts: 425 | Registered: Wednesday, January 28 2004 08:00 |
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written Sunday, January 2 2005 03:48
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Sure, but it's not much use unless you know which SDF you want to reset. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, January 2 2005 09:09
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It's also possible, although pretty unlikely, that the Tinraya SDFs are tied to something else, or just written strangely, so that a value of 0 isn't helpful. —Alorael, who would like to know how Jeff got through programming the game if he can't keep his SDFs straight. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Sunday, January 2 2005 10:12
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Now, how could one go about figuring out which SDF is which? Any oppurtunity for salvation will be investigated... Posts: 7 | Registered: Tuesday, December 28 2004 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, January 2 2005 16:07
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I assume that it would be very long and complicated. There are literally thousands of SDFs, and you would (i think) have to scour the whole game after changing each SDF, to identify the function of each SDF. And maybe, as Alorael said, the Tinraya events are controled by many SDFs. -------------------- "But The Damage is Irreversible" Posts: 358 | Registered: Monday, October 27 2003 08:00 |