Summon Classes
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Infiltrator
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written Wednesday, July 19 2006 09:49
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I haven't seen any listing of what creature summon levels will actually be summoned by which levels of summoning spells, so out of curiosity I did some testing and this is what I found out: -Call beast seems to summon creatures whose summon level is equal to its level divided by 2 and rounded down to a whole integer -Create Illusions summons creatures whose summon levels are equal to its level -Summon Aid summons creatures whose summon levels are one greater than its level -Arcane Summon summons creatures whose summon levels are 3 greater than its level I thought that this information might be useful to designers who want to balance summoning power, partiularly in higher level scenarios. Correction: Due to my poor ability to do single digit subtraction, I had misstated the number for Arcane Summon [ Thursday, July 20, 2006 09:10: Message edited by: Niemand ] -------------------- Überraschung des Dosenöffners! "On guard, you musty sofa!" Posts: 627 | Registered: Monday, March 7 2005 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, July 19 2006 14:38
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How do you determine the summon level of a spell? -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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The Establishment
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written Wednesday, July 19 2006 14:43
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My guess is that it's the raw spell level in terms of what you buy in the store. -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, July 19 2006 15:27
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Oh, I get it. I forgot that cr_summon_class existed. -------------------- quote: Posts: 1115 | Registered: Sunday, May 15 2005 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Wednesday, July 19 2006 17:29
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Does cr_summon_class also effect the level of Simulacrum needed to effect a creature? I've had creatures with summon class of -1 that are effected by simulacrum, which can be annoying. -------------------- Guaranteed to blow your mind. Frostbite: Get It While It's...... Hot? Posts: 900 | Registered: Monday, August 8 2005 07:00 |
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The Establishment
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written Wednesday, July 19 2006 18:33
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I believe only characters of type "important" cannot be simulacrumed. -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Wednesday, July 19 2006 21:55
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One way around the Simulacrum problem is to do what TM does with Cloud of Blades and take away Simulacrum in fights where it'd be unbalancing, giving it back again afterwards. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, July 23 2006 11:46
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I was under the impression that Wall of Blades was for Exile, not Avernum. Or perhaps I never played far enough to get that. ;) -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Sunday, July 23 2006 16:25
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Cloud of Blades does exist in BoA. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, July 24 2006 04:50
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I stand corrected. -------------------- And everybody say....Yatta! Posts: 1287 | Registered: Thursday, August 14 2003 07:00 |