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Master Xan Apprentice Member # 4423	written Monday, September 12 2005 11:10 Profile #0 Shadows "Some farmers are apparently afraid of their own shadows." Rated Everyone, levels 15-20 Designed to be a challenging scenario for the recommended levels. Small, only two outdoor squares, with two small towns planned and (currently) two hostile towns. Well, I finally broke down and am following advice. I'm making me a nice little scenario, nothing special, before attempting to create a more complicated one based in the Wheel of Time universe. I'll occasionally drop by and update these numbers. Storyline/Planning: 75% Outdoors: 60% Towns: 50% Specials: 10% Dialog: 10% Scripting: 20% Graphics: 30% Overall: ~35% Estimated Alpha: On Hold, Permanently Beta: Public Release: I'll need some basic scripting help, but hopefully I can figure out most of it with the various tutorials floating around (and there are quite a few, I see). But knowing me, I'll come up with some more random, extremely stupid things I can't find in the tutorials. That is, beyond the random stupid thing I already managed to come up with (see below). Mostly just wanted to get responses, and ask for graphic help. Need someone to do some creature graphics for me, as I completely suck with it. If you're willing to help email me at masterxan at burntmail dot com. (Note: I kept this seperate from the "Scenarios in Development" thread for a reason; mostly I just want to ask questions pertaining to this scenario right here, rather than starting various threads. As I have waaaaay too much free time right now and it's a small scenario, I also anticipate needing testers fairly soon, and those efforts will be launched from here as well.) [ Sunday, December 04, 2005 15:08: Message edited by: Master Xan ] -------------------- "When your teacher needs a calculator to add up how many you missed more than you need a calculator to take a calc test, that's bad." Posts: 44 \| Registered: Tuesday, May 25 2004 07:00
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, September 12 2005 11:38 Profile Homepage #1 BoE scenarios with "Shadow" in the name somehow: The Cult of Shadows, Foreshadows, Revenge of Thinshadow, and Shadow of the Stranger. Looks like you're safe. :P -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Master Xan Apprentice Member # 4423	written Monday, September 12 2005 14:45 Profile #2 Sweet. Now all I have to do is figure out why my monsters won't show up... And so my first scripting question: How do I create custom monsters? Now before you go all wack, it isn't really as dumb a question as it sounds. Well, ok, maybe it is. But I made the script for it, I just can't get it to show up in the editors creature list. I don't see much in the tutorials about this problem, which tells me I'm probably the only guy too stupid to figure it out. For the time being, it's just a little test guy. Armed Townsfolk. No behavioral anything, just his level, equipment, and what-have-you. Is there an import process I need to follow? Or is the script itself flawed? Here we go... beginscendatascript; begindefinecreature 240; clear; cr_name = "Armed Townsfolk"; cr_level = 10; cr_hp_bonus = 25; cr_species = 0; cr_which_sheet = 1501; cr_default_attitude = 2; cr_natural_armor = 1; cr_default_strategy = 10; cr_start_item 0 = 17; cr_start_item_chance 0 = 75; cr_start_item 0 = 19; cr_start_item_chance 0 = 100; cr_start_item 0 = 51; cr_start_item_chance 0 = 100; cr_start_item 0 = 26; cr_start_item_chance 0 = 100; cr_start_item 0 = 114; cr_start_item_chance 0 = 100; cr_start_item 0 = 126; cr_start_item_chance 0 = 100; -------------------- "When your teacher needs a calculator to add up how many you missed more than you need a calculator to take a calc test, that's bad." Posts: 44 \| Registered: Tuesday, May 25 2004 07:00
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, September 12 2005 15:40 Profile Homepage #3 Your problem is very likely that you don't have a custom objects script file. If your scenario .bas file is titled, for example, "valleydy.bas," you need a text file titled "valleydydata.txt" (possibly omitting the .txt if you're not set to show extensions). Make that file, put the script in it, and see what happens. [ Monday, September 12, 2005 15:41: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Thralni Master Member # 5977	written Tuesday, September 13 2005 04:08 Profile Homepage #4 I\d like to help you with your custom creature graphics. I just emailed you. I also included some of my own, so you can see how I make them. BUT DON"T USE THEM befor asking me, okay? -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 \| Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00
Master Xan Apprentice Member # 4423	written Tuesday, September 13 2005 10:59 Profile #5 haha, what makes you think I'll steal your work? Well, hmmm... I suppose there are people who would. But I'm not one of them, so no worries. Like I said, probably just me being dumb, not able to figure out something simple. I'll make a guess that it IS in the tutorials, but not in the custom creatures sections I looked at (and me being me, I skipped large swaths of the rest, only focussing on creatures and items for now). Thanks for the suggestion, I'll go attempt it right now... Edit: Yep, works like a charm. Thanks for the assistance. Hopefully this will teach me to be more thorough in my tutorial searching... [ Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:19: Message edited by: Master Xan ] -------------------- "When your teacher needs a calculator to add up how many you missed more than you need a calculator to take a calc test, that's bad." Posts: 44 \| Registered: Tuesday, May 25 2004 07:00
Thralni Master Member # 5977	written Sunday, September 18 2005 06:01 Profile Homepage #6 I have send you my first graphic I made for you, but I didn't receive anything from you as yet. Could you tell me if its alright? -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 \| Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00
Master Xan Apprentice Member # 4423	written Sunday, November 20 2005 17:27 Profile #7 After some two months of inactivity, I've finally gotten around to reviving this project. Normally I get lazy and don't finish things, but at least this time I had a good excuse (car accident, family death, don't ask and please, no sympathy). Anywho, um... yeah. Time to relearn everything I've forgotten, and finally get some scripting done. [ Sunday, November 20, 2005 17:29: Message edited by: Master Xan ] -------------------- "When your teacher needs a calculator to add up how many you missed more than you need a calculator to take a calc test, that's bad." Posts: 44 \| Registered: Tuesday, May 25 2004 07:00
Master Xan Apprentice Member # 4423	written Sunday, December 4 2005 15:06 Profile #8 This project has been scrapped, in favor of writing a book. That is, I'm writing a book with the time I would have spent making this scenario. It was simply too difficult for me to do what I wanted to do with the constraints of the system, and writing a book is something I've always wanted to do anyway. Sorry folks. -------------------- "When your teacher needs a calculator to add up how many you missed more than you need a calculator to take a calc test, that's bad." Posts: 44 \| Registered: Tuesday, May 25 2004 07:00
*i The Establishment Member # 6	written Sunday, December 4 2005 15:24 Profile #9 Can't say I'm entirely surprised. Good luck on your book. If, on the off chance, you get it published, be sure to let us know. -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Thralni Master Member # 5977	written Sunday, December 4 2005 23:32 Profile Homepage #10 quote: Originally written by Master Xan: This project has been scrapped, in favor of writing a book. That is, I'm writing a book with the time I would have spent making this scenario. It was simply too difficult for me to do what I wanted to do with the constraints of the system, and writing a book is something I've always wanted to do anyway. Sorry folks. Hmmm... I don't really know what to say: 1) Aaaah. what a pity.... 2) I'm glad I didn't make more then one graphic for the scenario then, because of lazines and bussines 3) Can i see what you did until now? 4) May I use the graphic I made instead of you? I can't think of any more reactions for now. -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 \| Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00
*i The Establishment Member # 6	written Monday, December 5 2005 05:52 Profile #11 quote: Hmmm... I don't really know what to say: Well here are a few less savory responses that I do not endorse: 1) Good. It probably wouldn't have had any merit as a scenario anyway. 2) This only further confirms my utter lack of faith in you to complete a project. I mock your attempt at making a book. 3) Excellent! Everything is going according to the prophecy... 4) Holy triange trout, Batman!! -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, December 5 2005 06:58 Profile Homepage #12 quote: What all of the seasomed members actually think: 2) This only further confirms my utter lack of faith in you to complete a project. I mock your attempt at making a book. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Thralni Master Member # 5977	written Monday, December 5 2005 07:02 Profile Homepage #13 quote: Originally written by i: quote: Hmmm... I don't really know what to say: Well here are a few less savory responses that I do not endorse: 1) Good. It probably wouldn't have had any merit as a scenario anyway. 2) This only further confirms my utter lack of faith in you to complete a project. I mock your attempt at making a book. 3) Excellent! Everything is going according to the prophecy... 4) Holy triange trout, Batman!! Here are four examples of I wouldn't have said. On the other hand, here are four examples that TM would gladly say. He already chose the second one to say. Why not all of them TM? -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029* \| Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00
Thuryl ...b10010b... Member # 869	written Monday, December 5 2005 14:15 Profile Homepage #14 Please don't encourage TM. He encourages himself often enough as it is. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 \| Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00
Imban Shake Before Using Member # 75	written Monday, December 5 2005 14:20 Profile #15 Well, the third and fourth are pretty lame. It's not surprising he didn't say them. :P Posts: 3234 \| Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00
*i The Establishment Member # 6	written Monday, December 5 2005 16:59 Profile #16 I was going to write something more obscene on the Batman one, but I decided against it. -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, December 5 2005 22:12 Profile Homepage #17 I'd have used 1) as well, but considering that Kel is apparently the benchmark for quality in this community, passing it isn't much of a feat. Mind you, he'd still have likely failed even that, but I can at least extend the benefit of the doubt that far. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Thralni Master Member # 5977	written Tuesday, December 6 2005 03:37 Profile Homepage #18 You used 1)? I didn't see it. I'll look better next time. And Thuryl, sometimes I have to say something. I often try not to say anything or just ignore it, but I couldn't let it go this time. maybe because I helpt Master xan with some graphics. -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029 \| Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00
*i The Establishment Member # 6	written Wednesday, December 7 2005 00:28 Profile #19 quote: Originally written by Thralni, chicken god prophet: You used 1)? I didn't see it. I'll look better next time. And Thuryl, sometimes I have to say something. I often try not to say anything or just ignore it, but I couldn't let it go this time. maybe because I helpt Master xan with some graphics. I wonder if there is a connection between Thralni's graphics and scenarios not getting finished...looks like a 1 to 1 correlation thus far... :rolleyes: -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Thralni Master Member # 5977	written Wednesday, December 7 2005 05:19 Profile Homepage #20 quote: Originally written by i: quote: Originally written by Thralni, chicken god prophet: You used 1)? I didn't see it. I'll look better next time. And Thuryl, sometimes I have to say something. I often try not to say anything or just ignore it, but I couldn't let it go this time. maybe because I helpt Master xan with some graphics. I wonder if there is a connection between Thralni's graphics and scenarios not getting finished...looks like a 1 to 1 correlation thus far... :rolleyes: I don't think so. -------------------- Play and rate my scenarios: Where the rivers meet View my upcoming scenario: The Nephil Search: Escape. Give us your drek! Posts: 3029* \| Registered: Saturday, June 18 2005 07:00