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The Immortal
BANNED
Member # 4
 written Sunday, February 19 2006 14:57 Profile Homepage #25
...sorry, but not really.

I mean, you're in the time of the Empire when non-humans are being massacred. :P

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Dikiyoba
Councilor
Member # 6600
 written Sunday, February 19 2006 16:01 Profile Homepage #26
Originally by Dintiradan:
quote:
For instance, I started playing APF with a nephil singleton. Imagine my suprise when I'm attacked by a group of nephilim because they have never seen 'humans' before. Then, I justified it to myself. My nephil was actually a nephar, and I mentally replaced 'humans' with 'freak'.
I ran across that minor problem myself with my no-human party. I just thought "slith" whenever I saw "human" and it worked out.

TM, please stop. You've made your point. It's a good point, but people who a have slith or nephil in their party have to work around it somehow or else they have to avoid the scenario.

Dikiyoba.
Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00
Thuryl
...b10010b...
Member # 869
 written Sunday, February 19 2006 16:13 Profile Homepage #27
Well, given how convenient the HLPM is, there's really no reason not to just make a new party for every scenario. If your current party isn't made of humans, make one that is.

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Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00
Dikiyoba
Councilor
Member # 6600
 written Sunday, February 19 2006 18:52 Profile Homepage #28
Dikiyoba has found that, with the exception of the god party, characters that level up normally are stronger than the characters who level up with the HLPM.
Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Sunday, February 19 2006 19:20 Profile Homepage #29
Use the Artifacts Hall first, and then use the HLPM. That creates a pretty authentic party.

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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Thuryl
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Member # 869
 written Sunday, February 19 2006 19:35 Profile Homepage #30
Or just bump the party up a few levels to compensate for the limited equipment. Or, hey, just play the scenario as is: a little extra challenge won't kill you.

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Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00
Drakefyre
Triad Mage
Member # 7
 written Friday, February 24 2006 06:55 Profile Homepage #31
TM wasn't talking about slavery as a whole, he was talking about Roots. In which case his point is completely justified.

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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
moonear
Infiltrator
Member # 5410
 written Monday, February 27 2006 20:49 Profile #32
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Slavery was prevelent in pre-colonial Africa. European merchants took advantage of this and purchased trade items (Africans) from other Africans. Seeing a good solid buyer, coastal African leaders began extracting as much of this resource as they could from the inner parts of Africa. This was not racist.
Africa is not one nation. Slavery in Africa WAS racially motivated as one african racial group sought superiority over another (or rather, elements of slavery in Africa were racially motivated, prior to the arrival of Europeans). To deny race as a factor is akin to denying race as a factor in the great European wars of the 20th Century

Similarly, calling North American native groups "Indian" denies the racial diversity of the first peoples of this continent - the first NATIONS - who were often also racially motivated against other tribes.

[ Tuesday, February 28, 2006 06:49: Message edited by: the fatman ]

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Posts: 687 | Registered: Wednesday, January 19 2005 08:00
moonear
Infiltrator
Member # 5410
 written Tuesday, February 28 2006 06:35 Profile #33
And logging in on the use of non-people in TM's scenario.

TM puts an incredible amount of time and effort into the created scenarios, both from a technical point and from an artistic/storytelling point. You deprive yourself of a good chunk of that value by not playing a scenario in the scenario creators original vision. From a role-playing view you realy have to stretch yourself in some scenarios to go outside the original vision - but from a technical, walkthrough and accomplish the missions point of view it can be done in many ways that differ from the creators original vision (here TM but could be anyone).

I would liken it to using the character editor during the game to heal yourself/obtain items...it changes the way the game is played, perhaps altering the original spirit of the scenario but....so what, if you take the product, make it your own and derive value from it, fine.

[ Tuesday, February 28, 2006 06:48: Message edited by: the fatman ]

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