CREATING A MESSAGE BOARD(NEED A HAND!!!)

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G' day, can anybody tell me how to set up a message board, I,m making a web site using HTMl only for my college.

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A message board is a web application usually built in PHP, accessing a MySQL database. If you don't know whether either of these are enabled on your webspace, they probably aren't (since you mention using only HTML on your site, I guess you don't have PHP).

If you don't, you need a remote host. The best free forum host I have seen is InvisionFree. (There's another one called Proboards though).

Oh, and if anybody tells you about EzBoard, don't listen - they suck royally.

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If you do have PHP/MySQL enabled, I suggest getting phpBB. It's free, easy to set up and easy to maintain.

[ Thursday, October 20, 2005 03:59: Message edited by: Atrus ]

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This is really random, but thanks for posting this topic, as I've actually been thinking about that recently. One of my classes really needs something better than the junky system our school controls (which has no formatting, editing, not even multiple spaces). 'Tis annoying, to say the least...

And yes, ezBoard looked really sketchy...

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It is not merely sketchy, it is so fishy it stinks. They claim to make regular backups, but then mysteriously "lose" them when the system actually broke down. Either they didn't make any, or they stored them on the regular servers, which defeats the purpose of a backup.

Even on paid boards, they deliberately block certain words that you can't change - not harmless words like s*** or f***, but really awful ones like "description", which comes out as "de******ion" (apparently they don't like "script").
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I've heard some bad things about InvisionFree, but if you want something totally free, it looks like your best option. However, if you are willing to pay for it, you shouldn't get paid versions of either ezboard or InvisionFree, because the quality is not that much better than the [low] quality of free versions.

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As a matter of fact, there's no such thing as a "paid InvisionFree forum". The only enhancement you can pay for is the removal of the ad banner.

However, there is a paid software named Invision Power Board (often confused with InvisionFree), which is what powers Polaris. I've worked with it, and it's very easy to maintain. The downside is the price. It's worth it if you already have a solid community, but for anyone else I'd recommend something free (phpBB for self-hosted sites, or InvisionFree). Boards come and boards die, and you'll regret it later when you have an expensive software package lying around that you have no use for.

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HTML is only able to create static and generally uninteractive web pages. JavaScript can help if you know it, but a BBS with it might be a little clunky.

Yes, your best bet is probably Invision Free. Unless you want to make your own, but that takes a while. :P

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I remember-- kindly, might I add-- a time when this sort of topic would be laughed off of the fora (if it wasn't locked first).

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When was this time, and why would it have been?

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quote:
Originally written by ben ben:

JavaScript can help if you know it, but a BBS with it might be a little clunky.
"Clunky." "Might." A BBS in JavaScript. *wibble* :eek:

That said, a board could be made in Java or Flash (both are interpreted on the client side, so no server issues like with PHP), but it would not only be clunky and take more time to make than a real forum, but would be basically the equivalent of writing a text document with MS Paint. Possible, but... wrong.

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quote:
Originally written by Albus Dumbledore:

quote:
Originally written by ben ben:

JavaScript can help if you know it, but a BBS with it might be a little clunky.
"Clunky." "Might." A BBS in JavaScript. *wibble* :eek:

That said, a board could be made in Java or Flash (both are interpreted on the client side, so no server issues like with PHP), but it would not only be clunky and take more time to make than a real forum, but would be basically the equivalent of writing a text document with MS Paint. Possible, but... wrong.

Yes, but you need a server-side element for the message storage.

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And also bollocks.

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UA, Java can connect to a server-side storage. Runescape runs on this - one big Java applet.
Flash I have no idea about. But I remember several internet flash games with a highscore list stored on the server, which would imply that the game sent back some information to the server.

TM: We'd be laughing if he'd set it up and asked us to join it. There is irony in repetitive stupidity. :P
But right now, he's asking about the technical aspect, and apparently that's an interesting subject.

Edit: Corrected.

[ Thursday, October 27, 2005 00:43: Message edited by: Explode The Bandwagon Now ]

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That's not chicho, that's UA.

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I am not sure how I made that mistake. I have a cold right now though and am awfully tired most of the time; that might explain it.

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quote:
Originally written by Noreni:

UA, Java can connect to a server-side storage. Runescape runs on this - one big Java applet.
Flash I have no idea about. But I remember several internet flash games with a highscore list stored on the server, which would imply that the game sent back some information to the server.

TM: We'd be laughing if he'd set it up and asked us to join it. There is irony in repetitive stupidity. :P
But right now, he's asking about the technical aspect, and apparently that's an interesting subject.

Edit: Corrected.

I'm perfectly aware of what Java/Flash can do, I'm simply saying that any host that doesn't support things like PHP has minimal chance of having ANY method of server side storage like so.

[ Thursday, October 27, 2005 09:31: Message edited by: Kakakaka ]

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So in short, use PHP instead.

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quote:
Originally written by Kakakaka:

I'm perfectly aware of what Java/Flash can do, I'm simply saying that any host that doesn't support things like PHP has minimal chance of having ANY method of server side storage like so.
Point taken.

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quote:
Originally written by ben ben:

So in short, use PHP instead.
Um. What?

a) his current host doesn't support PHP
b) A java/flash applet could compose an entire forum with a PHP backend, so I don't know what you mean by 'instead'

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quote:
Originally written by lightningmaster2016:

Even on paid boards, they deliberately block certain words that you can't change
I went to an ezboard once, and someone was debating something in some thread and made a reference to "my assertion".
It read "I disagreeertion." ><

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quote:
Originally written by Kakakaka:

quote:
Originally written by ben ben:

So in short, use PHP instead.
Um. What?

a) his current host doesn't support PHP
b) A java/flash applet could compose an entire forum with a PHP backend, so I don't know what you mean by 'instead'

Never mind then. I was just trying to summarize the previous few arguments, however lame the summarization itself may have turned out. :P

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