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quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

I still think Thuryl is exaggerating.
Sometimes the truth is too boring to be respectable.

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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:


quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:


I still think Thuryl is exaggerating.
Sometimes the truth is too boring to be respectable.

Indeed. If it is boring, liven it up!

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Heaven preserve me from my friends, and I'll take care of my enemies myself.

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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:


Heaven preserve me and my friends, and I'll take care of my enemies myself
WTF?

[ Tuesday, May 03, 2005 01:36: Message edited by: The Sprung Spring. ]

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In France, one famous humorist named Coluche said :
"God said there will be differences between people and for some of them, it'll be hard : there will be black people, small people, poor people, blind people , ugly people and there will even be small blinded ugly poor black people ! And for them, it'll be extremely hard !"
He said this 20 years ago and nowadays that's totally rude to say that.
I find it silly because it is condemning humor and tolerating racism.
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Originally written by The Sprung Spring.:

quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:


Heaven preserve me and my friends, and I'll take care of my enemies myself
WTF?

That's not what I wrote.

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Originally written by stick of death:


there will be black people, small people, poor people, blind people , ugly people...
There are, of course black people, small people, poor people, blind people and ugly people in the world, but to make a joke about them together? Not funny.

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all bad traits put together is funny because that's almost impossible !
Or maybe you're Elephant's man nephew ?

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No, I'm not Elephant Man's nephew. :confused:
I just don't really think it is a funny thing. Just imagine if you were a poor, black, small, ugly, blind human being. Would you laugh?

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I wouldn't but if I were I would be the greatest man on earth.
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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

quote:
Originally written by The Sprung Spring.:

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Originally written by Thuryl:


Heaven preserve me and my friends, and I'll take care of my enemies myself
WTF?

That's not what I wrote.

I know, but I forgot to copy it and I didn't load the one that shows the posts down the bottom.

To stick of death: How would you be the greatest man on Earth? You are probably being sarcastic, but I can't tell over the internet.

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There is a general misunderstanding to aff. action - that it's going to push out qualified applicants. It isn't.

A black 4.0 / 1600 and a white 4.0 / 1600 are both going to get into a school, and so are both of a black 3.9 / 1550 and a white 4.0 / 1600. The only difference comes when you get to numbers like 2.5 / 900.

Spring: ...sometimes I wonder about you.

[ Tuesday, May 03, 2005 22:28: Message edited by: Custer XVI ]

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Originally written by Custer XVI:

Spring: ...sometimes I wonder about you.
Hmmmm....should I take that as a compliment or should I be insulted? Desicions, desicions...

[ Tuesday, May 03, 2005 23:06: Message edited by: Sprung Spring ]

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quote:
Originally written by Sprung Spring:

quote:
Originally written by Custer XVI:

Spring: ...sometimes I wonder about you.
Hmmmm....should I take that as a compliment or should I be insulted? Desicions, desicions...

...but most of the time, I know...

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quote:
Originally written by Custer XVI:

There is a general misunderstanding to aff. action - that it's going to push out qualified applicants. It isn't.

A black 4.0 / 1600 and a white 4.0 / 1600 are both going to get into a school, and so are both of a black 3.9 / 1550 and a white 4.0 / 1600. The only difference comes when you get to numbers like 2.5 / 900.

Spring: ...sometimes I wonder about you.

But you do get plenty of cases where white students with a 3.8/1450 get rejected and black students with a 3.6/1400 get accepted.

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Maybe to Harvard, but if both have a similar course and activity composition, neither should be on the edge like that to most schools.

The point is that gov't intercession isn't putting C students in college over A students based on the color of their skin. Quotas can potentially do that, but there was a case a while back which made them specifically unconstitutional. The result is one group gaining an artificial edge which is more pronounced in lower grades.

Income-based AA has also been suggested, and I'm personally for both. In both cases there exists a societal disadvantage which the student has no control over, and while there certainly shouldn't be, pretending it doesn't exist isn't going to fix it. Affirmative Action might not either, but it at least is a start.

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quote:
Originally written by Custer XVI:

Income-based AA has also been suggested, and I'm personally for both. In both cases there exists a societal disadvantage which the student has no control over, and while there certainly shouldn't be, pretending it doesn't exist isn't going to fix it. Affirmative Action might not either, but it at least is a start.
I'm more for income-based AA than race-based, but I can understand the reasoning behind the latter.

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