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Apprentice
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i am currently in High School, and i will be entering college next year. it so happens that i haven't yet decided about my future path

since i have a knack for maths and physics, i was thinking about choosing Informatic Engineering, Mechanics Engineering or Physics

but i just can't decide

any advice about which of the three is better?
any other grades you think are interesting?

thanks in advance
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Warrior
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Information engineering or mechanics enineering if you want a safe job with good wages, physics if you like challenges.
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My personal pick would be Architectural Engeneering above anything else. It suits my taste of creativity while still needing to be structured and exact.

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Take the courses before you decide.

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Apprentice
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my schooling system isn't like that of the US

to try those options, i would actually have to complete a semestry in each of them.

and that would give me a poor idea, since the first year is very similar for all of those, ya know, maths and physics.
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La Canaliste
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Where are you, then?
I studied Engineering, with a mechanical sort of specialisation, and am now doing nothing like it.
Engineering has a sort of positivist materialist optimistic mindset assumed in the philosophy that I find hard to support, although I could do the academic side. It's useful to have some idea of the philosophical basis of a subject before studying it, though I know that's a fairly odd kind of career advice.

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You could do astrophysics if you like astronomy.

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Apprentice
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astrophysics is kinda risky

but i am a genius, so it shouldn't be that hard to find a job

lol
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Warrior
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As a math and physics major, I say math and physics! Physics is a fairly broad area, too, so you have a lot of options in what you can do. Personally, I like relativity and quantum mechanics a lot, and plan to work on things along those lines, including quantum gravity/string theory. You don't have to do things that are that involved and theoretical to be a physics major, though, there are plenty of experimental fields that are good, too.

If you end up finding physics too hard, though, it's easy to go to engineering from there.

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Apprentice
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i like physics mostly because of theory
and the difficulty is not scaring(last year i had a school average of 19.38 out of 20, without breaking a sweet).

my problem is that i find many grades interesting
besides from languages and biology, i like pretty much everything, with special attention to maths and physics as i said
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quote:
astrophysics is kinda risky

but i am a genius, so it shouldn't be that hard to find a job

lol
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i like physics mostly because of theory
and the difficulty is not scaring(last year i had a school average of 19.38 out of 20, without breaking a sweet ).

You may or may not want to work on your literacy first.
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Well, I'm a physicist, and I think it's the best route to take if you are uncertain about your goals. If you start with physics and at some later date decide that it's not for you, it will be easy enough to migrate into a variety of other areas, especially engineering. The same is not true for engineering, once you start the program you've signed your future over to the department. And also, people will be consistantly be more impressed if you say you're a "physicist" rather than if you say "engineer."

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Shaper
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Originally written by shell:


And also, people will be consistantly be more impressed if you say you're a "physicist" rather than if you say "engineer."
Although that isn't that important as the pay you get to manage bills, mortgauge, etc. it is a good thing. Personally I would take physics, but it is up to you. Ask a teacher about each of the subjects, then decide which one suits your needs best.

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A pure mathematics degree is also a good thing, and can branch into all kinds of areas. A more immediately employable version of a math degree is an econ degree, with emphasis in statistics.

Do what you will enjoy most. I got a liberal arts degree in Classics. Though the skillset I acquired from this degree is, in theory, about the least useful for "real life" applications (maybe Medieval Lit. is worse...), it definitely encouraged the analytical development of my mind and was a blast at the time. I'm fairly certain it's also helped to get me into a decent law school.
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Electric Sheep One
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As a participant in the physics industry I am really happy to see people advocating a physics degree as a career launcher. Please, tell all your friends. It's not addictive at all, and the first integral is free.

The only caveat I would add is, make sure that you learn to write, too. You need that for pretty much everything, including physics, but you won't get it if you only study math and science courses in college.

[ Monday, May 02, 2005 06:53: Message edited by: Student of Trinity ]

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Shaper
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I am having similar problems picking a career. I could probably manage most anything. Its more if I truly want to spend years working a certain job. I've thought about dentistry or MD also teaching, or RCMP. Anybody in these fields please tell me of your experiences.

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Here's what I'm gonna do: join the military. I'd advise it too. So what if you might get put overseas for a few years? You only have to work for 20 years and then you can retire. which is all good for me. And pay is pretty good. Go to college forst though, then you'll get even more dough. :)

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Pick something that you really enjoy doing, and become so good at it that people will pay you to do it.

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Law Bringer
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Originally written by Ash Lael:

Pick something that you really enjoy doing, and become so good at it that people will pay you to do it.
Alternatively, you can try picking something that people will pay you for, and become so good at it that you enjoy doing it. That is a lot harder, but on occasion it can be more sure to succeed.

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It's not so much that you can retire after 20 years in the military, as that they throw you out after 20 years. On military pay and pension, most people are far from able to retire at age 40. So most ex-military people then have to find a second career for twenty years or so. Some do so more easily than others.

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If you make the military work for you, however, it can be very career advancing. Many people I know used their time in the military to get education in defense-oriented tech fields as well as engineering, which leads to great career opportunities (at least in the DC area) in all kinds of consulting and government work. If you're interested in working for one of the "other" government agencies, taking an intelligence track in the service is highly recommended. The security clearance you can get in the service, especially a top secret clearance, is like gold around here.

Definitely go the officer route, though, if possible: although the incentives for enlisting are very good, ultimately it won't take you anywhere cool.

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quote:
Originally written by VCH:

I am having similar problems picking a career. I could probably manage most anything. Its more if I truly want to spend years working a certain job. I've thought about dentistry or MD also teaching, or RCMP. Anybody in these fields please tell me of your experiences.
Not from my personal experience but what I've learned from others:
Grandma Sue is a radiolotist. More of a nurse with alot of training then an MD, but her work schedule is a big pain. She's almost always working, on-call or on back-up call which means that she gets very little time to just go and do whatever she wants even on her days off. She does get paid a whole lot for the work she does though. So if you don't mind being married to your job, as opposed to having a social life it could be for you.

Teaching, on the other hand, has a very structured schedule with short hours and 3 months of vacation every year. Pay is minimal depending on where you teach at and you usually don't get paid over the summer. So if you like your social life and don't mind getting gyped on pay it could be for you.

I don't know many dentists to refer their experiences to you but I do know that there's a whole lot of people who hate to go to the dentist and/or transfer that hate to their dentist. So if you don't mind being hated it could be for you. As far as scheduling I think that alot of dentists end up running their own practice ie. "being their own boss" and therefore get to set their own hours and go on vacation whenever they like. My dentist has a very good bedside manner and he wouldn't be my dentist if he didn't. To be successful you really need to be likable to bring your customers back and get referrals.

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Apprentice
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sorry it took me so long to reply, but i had some problems with my ISP

when i said i was a genius, just in case someone didn't noticed, i was joking

my english may note be that good, but it isn't that bad. however i am a good writer in my native language, which is portuguese

from what you have said, in the US, physicists are very respected

the same does not happen here.
where i am from, engineers are much more respected than physicists. Actually, most people don't know what physiscs is. Alas, most people can only think of doctors, lawyers and engineers as worthy-of-respect individuals. Besides, around here, i can earn 2,3, maybe 4 times more money as an engineer than as a physicist. That is, if i am lucky enough to find an employer who would hire a physicist

oh, and if you are wandering, i am from Portugal

that said, i love physics and maths, i am curious and intelligent, but i feel unsafe about chosing either of them

something else you could advice me?

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be a P.I.

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