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Shock Trooper
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In Exile 2 and 3, when you go through a door, it opens. In Avernum, you can close them up again so that if you want to steal something from John Q. Public, you can without anyone seeing you. In Exile, looking at the door doesn't work like it does in Avernum– is it possible to close them?

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Agent
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Try the "Use" button.

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Originally written by Kelandon
Well, I'm at least pretty

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Infiltrator
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Doesn't the 'look' button work as well?

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Agent
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No, in Exile you have to "use" the door to close it.

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Master
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quote:
Originally written by Erika Maroonmark:

steal something from John Q. Public
Yes, but is that really ethical? :P

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-ben4808
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Law Bringer
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To be fair, you are saving the world (or at least Avernum) from certain doom. The least they owe you is everything but the kitchen sink.

—Alorael, who has had minimal luck with extracting the clothes from their back.
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Shock Trooper
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Ah! Thank you! (I had so much trouble getting everyone pants at the beginning of the game, since I would have had to steal them but didn't know how. XD)

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A C, an E-flat, and a G walk into the Tower of the Magi.
Ambrin walks up to them and says, "Hey! It's the Triad!"
Kelner snorts and says, "Pretty minor Triad if you ask me."
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Agent
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From memory, the bandit forts at the beginning of each game usually have a few pairs of pants lying around.

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Agent
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quote:
Originally written by Micawber:

From memory, the bandit forts at the beginning of each game usually have a few pairs of pants lying around.
But morally, any self-respecting adventurer would not stoop to wearing Bandit pants. Whatever next!

- Archmagus Micael

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Infiltrator
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Better than wearing no pants...

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But I don't want to ride the elevator.
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Agent
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I dunno about that.

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Originally written by Kelandon
Well, I'm at least pretty

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Master
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Eh, it's obviously ethical enough. It's a game. Jeff probably put the stuff on there knowing you were going to steal it. But there's still my brother who won't do it because of ethics. :rolleyes:

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-ben4808
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I didn't steal things because of ethics for a while when I first played the Exile games. I eventually realized this really was just a game. However, I found that most stuff that you can get away with stealing is generally garbage - almost everything in BoE is, and most items in E3 are, in my opinion. Haven't really seen most of E2's treasures.

Sure, you can make some money, but I find stealing low-value items a waste of time - I find it easier to kill some monsters, and pick their treasure up.

EDIT: Also, does something actually happen in E3 if everyone has pants and shirts. If so, I missed it.

[ Sunday, April 30, 2006 17:30: Message edited by: BainIhrno ]

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quote:
Originally written by Ur-Noob:

Eh, it's obviously ethical enough. It's a game. Jeff probably put the stuff on there knowing you were going to steal it. But there's still my brother who won't do it because of ethics. :rolleyes:
Does he not kill monsters?

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Well, I'm at least pretty

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Maybe he thinks killing monsters are okay because they're evil, but the townspeople are innocent. Well, at least that's how I thought of it back when I was eleven.

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Agent
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quote:
Originally written by BainIhrno:

Maybe he thinks killing monsters are okay because they're evil, but the townspeople are innocent. Well, at least that's how I thought of it back when I was eleven.
But are Bandits "Evil"? I mean, some people think adventurers are as bad as Bandits, so is killing them ethical?

- Archmagus Micael

[ Sunday, April 30, 2006 23:14: Message edited by: Archmagus Micael ]

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Well, it's not like I thought rationally in games when I was eleven. Now, ethics in games don't matter to me. But really, Ben will have to speak for his brother, not me.

[ Monday, May 01, 2006 02:08: Message edited by: BainIhrno ]

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Nuke and Pave
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There are some BoE scenarios (I think later works by Alcritas are among them) where breaking into people's houses decreases your reputation, and bad reputataion not only makes things harder for you, but effects the ending as well.

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Master
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quote:
Originally written by Dead Weight on the Forums:

quote:
Originally written by Ur-Noob:

Eh, it's obviously ethical enough. It's a game. Jeff probably put the stuff on there knowing you were going to steal it. But there's still my brother who won't do it because of ethics. :rolleyes:
Does he not kill monsters?

No, you need to kill monsters. He just doesn't steal stuff. But like Bain said, there's not that much good stuff to steal anyway.

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-ben4808
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Shock Trooper
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quote:
Originally written by BainIhrno:

EDIT: Also, does something actually happen in E3 if everyone has pants and shirts. If so, I missed it.
Pants reduce the damage you take, so they're pretty helpful, especially in the beginning.

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A C, an E-flat, and a G walk into the Tower of the Magi.
Ambrin walks up to them and says, "Hey! It's the Triad!"
Kelner snorts and says, "Pretty minor Triad if you ask me."
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Taking exactly 1 less point of damage per hit isn't exactly anything to write home about. :P

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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In Exile, though, it's rather significant, since the minimum armor damage stacks. It's a whole lot better to wear six pieces of armor that protect from 1-1 damage, than one piece that protects from 1-10.

Also, don't forget that in E1 and E2, nobody wore pants.

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Shaper
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quote:
Originally written by Ornkithopter v. Thurkyl's Recall:

Also, don't forget that in E1 and E2, nobody wore pants.
Kinky.

quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

Taking exactly 1 less point of damage per hit isn't exactly anything to write home about. :P
True, but it might save you one day. :P

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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

Taking exactly 1 less point of damage per hit isn't exactly anything to write home about. :P
It still can be agued as worth it, though, especially because pants are common and in most cases free. It's like switching your Iron Broadsword for an Iron Wave Blade, even though the wave blade is only one damage point better.

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-ben4808
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Except, of course, that the pants are guaranteed to reduce every hit by 1 damage, whereas changing blades just increases one end of your damage range by 1, for an average damage increase of half a point. Pants are better than wave blades!

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