Armor vs Resistances
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Apprentice
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written Friday, March 2 2007 12:48
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Hello there, just bought Geneforge 4 after having a ball with the demo... I'm unable to find any real info on what armor does. Is it a percentage to dodge or does it subtract physical dmg? Does it affect anything other than physical attacks? Also, as the topic states, is it better to go for armor or resistance? Thanks in advance! :) Posts: 4 | Registered: Friday, March 2 2007 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Friday, March 2 2007 13:00
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Some armor does affect hit chance. like the breast plates. Posts: 43 | Registered: Saturday, February 24 2007 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Friday, March 2 2007 13:01
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Also some gives you intellegence or creation intellegence and more. Posts: 43 | Registered: Saturday, February 24 2007 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Friday, March 2 2007 13:06
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Thanks for the replies, but I meant the armor %. :P Like, normal Gauntlets have "Armor: +4%". What does the 4% do? Posts: 4 | Registered: Friday, March 2 2007 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Friday, March 2 2007 13:44
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It means that if you take 100 damage, wearing those gaunlets would let you take 96. But the % is not cummulative. You have to take each piece of armour separately . For example you are wearing 5 peices of armour that each reduce damage by 20%. A monster hits you for 100 damage (without armour) The first piece takes away 20 damage. 100*0.8=80 The next takes 20 percent of that. 80*0.8=64 64*0.8=51.2 51.2*0.8=40.96 40.96*0.8= 32.768 The armour only took away 67.232 damage not 100. [ Friday, March 02, 2007 13:47: Message edited by: Leftover Sauerkraut ] -------------------- "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead. Posts: 152 | Registered: Monday, November 6 2006 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Friday, March 2 2007 13:46
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quote:Welcome, welcome! I'll leave it to a non-lurker to extend the formal board salutations, with regards to where one is to leave one's sanity... As far as armor goes, if you search around you'll find long discussions on the subject, but I'll try to summarize: Armor % for your various worn items contribute to damage reduction from when you're hit. It's not a simple additive function, however, but slightly more complex. For instance, if you are wearing a 51% armor item, a 30% armor item, and a 20% armor item, you might think you're invincible -- 101%! Not so. Your true harm reduction is 51% + (30% of (100-51)%, or 15%) + (20% of (100-51-15)%, or 7%), for a true reduction in damage of 51+15+7 = 73%. Correct me if I'm wrong, folks. Hope that helps -- enjoy the games, and have fun on the boards! [edit: guess I was beaten to the punch!...] [ Friday, March 02, 2007 13:47: Message edited by: wary wanderer ] -------------------- "Mongo only pawn in game of life" -- Mongo Posts: 75 | Registered: Monday, August 5 2002 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Friday, March 2 2007 14:09
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Haha, what a wonderful formula. Thanks for the help! :) Posts: 4 | Registered: Friday, March 2 2007 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, March 3 2007 22:35
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quote:What order are the damage reductions applied in? Largest to smallest, smallest to largest, random, or...? -------------------- Nobody appreciates me. It's all "Igor! Fetch some wine!" "Igor! Clean up this experiment!" or "Igor! Bury this in the garden, we're leaving town in 10 minutes!" —Alorael, who tried to become a deivore once. The priest gave him a funny look after the third wafer. Posts: 301 | Registered: Thursday, October 2 2003 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Sunday, March 4 2007 05:15
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They don't teach this in American schools? When you multiply, the order does not matter. -------------------- ??? ?????? ???? ????? Posts: 883 | Registered: Wednesday, October 19 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Sunday, March 4 2007 06:58
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Well, the actual question is little bit deeper then that. I believe this math applies only to "physical" type damage, does it? Because I remember back some time reading about G3 that "armor provide half it's value to effect resistances, therefore "20% armor" and "10% armor 5% HER" are quite the same thing in regard to magic/fire/etc..." is this true (omitting the multiplicative math :D should be like 7% HER to make up for it I guess), or close to? -------------------- "At ease, guys, it's just some nonsence green wingbolt..." - Guardian Kantor, Shaper infiltrator forces, last words. Posts: 36 | Registered: Sunday, March 4 2007 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Sunday, March 4 2007 07:14
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Yes, armor only affects physical damage. Yes, armor provides half its value as fire, ice, and energy resistance. However, the equation is exactly the same for any type of damage -- you just take fire resistance (for example) into account instead of armor. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |