question about the continents!and some other stuffs
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Infiltrator
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written Thursday, September 22 2005 18:44
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well, i recently entered the blazing blade page and i found something, the maps of almost all of the continents of the avernum "world".but those maps are invented aren¿t they?or jeff really design that? and another thing that really concern me is that i always had the doubt about what is the size of valorim because it doesn't look like a CONTINENT for me it just looks like a country!and what about the others continents?maybe the avernum world isn't bigger than USA! and just a little question is about what is that area to the northwest of tinraya? it's suposed to appear setled in some future avernum game? and the last is that i really liked the za-khazi run and maybe i thought that it could be added to the avernum area, anyway what the heck is behind the stupids rocks in the rivers that go out of avernum? Posts: 446 | Registered: Friday, July 22 2005 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Thursday, September 22 2005 18:49
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All maps of the surface except those of Valorim itself are invented by the community with little justification. Depending on how you figure it, Valorim may be the size of California or possibly even the size of India. It's pretty small, though. I'm not sure about the Keep of Tinraya, but there has been some debate about what's north of Blackcrag, and I don't think I was ever convinced. Some say that another continent is on the other side, and I swear something in A3 said that, but I have never been able to find it. ZKR is geographically very obscure. I never have figured out how it's supposed to fit into mainland Avernum. [ Thursday, September 22, 2005 18:50: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 22 2005 18:59
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Didn't someone come up with a way that suggested Valorim to be approximately the size of Australia? I mean, it's still pretty small as continents go, but it's bigger than California. -------------------- ~Note : The professional newbie's advice should not be taken seriously, or at all.~ LINKAGE Posts: 364 | Registered: Saturday, January 17 2004 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Thursday, September 22 2005 20:02
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I was figuring it based on the mile measurements given in the signs between towns. The full calculation can be found here, near the bottom of the page. Now that I look back at it, my lower bound was about three or four times the size of California, and my upper bound was somewhat larger than the size of India. [ Thursday, September 22, 2005 20:04: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Friday, September 23 2005 19:12
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then i was right, the Empire world isn't bigger that usa!what a tiny "world"! maybe in the same world is suposse to be the three shapers continents o geneforge :) that woulds be cool Posts: 446 | Registered: Friday, July 22 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, September 23 2005 19:50
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If Geneforge and Avernum had anything in common besides fantasy setting and magic, maybe. But they don't. —Alorael, who doesn't see why Valorim couldn't' be a California to India-sized continent. Maybe Pralgad is the size of the rest of Asia. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 05:21
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Just cause a world is earth-like (habitable), doesn't necessarily mean that it's earth-like (size). There are many sizes of planets, why can't ermanian be a small planet with a different distance measurement? :confused: :cool: [ Saturday, September 24, 2005 05:22: Message edited by: Solberg the All-Powerful ] -------------------- My name's Solberg. Pronounced Sol-Berg. Exile/Avernum's Greatest LIVING Archmage! I'm sure you've heard of me at some point. Posts: 385 | Registered: Tuesday, November 20 2001 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 05:33
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Because the distances are given in "miles." If you want to imagine that these are "Ermarian miles," not Earth miles, feel free, but that idea seems stupid to me. And the size of Valorim doesn't tell us much about the size of the other continents. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 05:52
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Maybe everyone in the world are midgets, making the continents seem smaller? or maybe they are Giants, and perceive miles differently from us and therefore the world is, in fact, huge? -------------------- boo Posts: 6 | Registered: Friday, September 23 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 09:49
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That still doesn't change the fact that a mile is a mile, no more and no less, no matter where you are. —Alorael, who would rather believe that Ermarian is improbably dense if it absolutely must be a smaller world than Earth. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 13:37
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I always thought that a mile was one space on the outdoors grid. -------------------- Nobody appreciates me. It's all "Igor! Fetch some wine!" "Igor! Clean up this experiment!" or "Igor! Bury this in the garden, we're leaving town in 10 minutes!" —Alorael, who tried to become a deivore once. The priest gave him a funny look after the third wafer. Posts: 301 | Registered: Thursday, October 2 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 16:00
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A mile is a mile as long as it's set accordingly. Earth's mile could very well be different than Ermanian's mile. There really shouldn't be any confusion. And why are you arguing with me??? I'm Archmage Solberg exactly what planet do you think I live on? Our mile is exactly 5,000 feet long. To put that into laymans terms. Ermanian = Earth 1 foot = .4 foot It would take 13200 Earth feet to equal on Ermanian mile! Our measurements are 2.5 times bigger. But as far as people go, we're roughly the same size, just numbered differently. Ermanian Earth 15 ft 6ft Don't get confused because of what the game says. We used Earth measurements when describing the sizes of animals, not distance...sorry. :cool: -------------------- My name's Solberg. Pronounced Sol-Berg. Exile/Avernum's Greatest LIVING Archmage! I'm sure you've heard of me at some point. Posts: 385 | Registered: Tuesday, November 20 2001 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 17:24
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let's just say that the world is very little and that the five empire continent are not "all" the continents and that they are of the size of USA,i like to imagine that...because i like to think that the empire is not everything in this world, take as example America that was "discovered" just 500 years ago Posts: 446 | Registered: Friday, July 22 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 19:07
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If Avernum games are written in English, then I feel justified in assuming that the words actually mean what they say, not something approximately the same. Jeff didn't stick a Nightfall prologue in there explaining that miles can be krulbiv if we want. —Alorael, who believes Jeff did all the necessary conversions and calculations from krulbiv to miles for the players to make it easier. You do know how many spaces per mile, right? Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 21:15
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The fact that miles are used points to a primitive society. They have yet to develop any accurate standards for measurement. ;) -------------------- The Knight Between Posts. Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Sunday, September 25 2005 02:40
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Well, ounces mean different things in volume and weight, and nautical miles are different from land miles. Also, I'm pretty sure that Ermarian has much more water and much less landmass than Earth. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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written Sunday, September 25 2005 04:58
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We're all forgetting the really important question here: how long are blms? -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, September 25 2005 09:27
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quote:I protest. Miles are perfectly accurate. They're just extremely inconvenient. —Alorael, who has nothing to say to defend ounces and nautical miles. Ounces aren't even abbreviated logically. Oz? Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |