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For quick comparison, I put together this chart of test results. The letters are in order of law/chaos, good/evil, race, and class, and should be pretty self explanatory. ("e" is half-elf, "o" is half-orc, and "h" is halfling; "B" is barbarian while "b" is bard; "p" is paladin not priest and "r" is ranger not rogue.)

L G H F -- Marlenny
L G E F -- Dolphin
L G e F -- Imban
L G e p -- Dareva
N G H B -- Jewels
N G E B -- Salmon
N G E r -- Stranger
N G E Cr -- Chaotic Wisdom
N G e MF -- Niemand
N G e C -- Zephyr
N G e b -- MagmaDragoon
N G h b -- Stew Boy
C G H r -- Sullust
C G E B -- Alec
C G E B -- Ephesos
C G E C -- Milu
C G E b -- TM
C G E b -- Nicothodes
C G E b -- Erika Maroonmark
C G E b -- Wz. As
C G e CT -- Lenar
C G e b -- Kelandon
C G h TC -- Inthrall
C G h b -- Liff
C G o F -- Silent Assassin
C G o b -- Smugglers Alliance
L N H F -- MM
L N H F -- Dintiradan
N N H F -- Spring
N N E Dr -- Slarty
N N e b -- Aran
L E E Mr -- *i
L E h MD -- Dikiyoba
N E H TM -- Dead Weight
C E H B -- Infernal
C E H B -- Kingy
C E o B -- CPeters
C E o B -- Tyranicus
C E o MC -- Timber-Wolf

Analysis: (39 results)
Most of us are chaotic. Most of us are good and few (5) are neutral. About half of us are barbarians or fighters. Many of us are bards. There are almost no druids (2) and paladins (1). Most of us are elves or half-elves; there are no dwarves or gnomes.

[ Sunday, April 16, 2006 20:07: Message edited by: 2600 Hertzballons ]

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Hmm, analysis of this test is probably less interesting than a Political Compass or Jung test.

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The only worthwhile analysis reveals that 39 people were bored out of their skulls for at least 10 minutes out of the last 24 hours. It may have been more, but only 39 people posted their results.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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So much good, so little evil, pity :cool:

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quote:
Originally written by *i:

So much good, so little evil, pity :cool:
I protest on the grounds that if TM is listed as CG, the test is not measuring reality. I'm sure there are others who have answered as per the instructions and have thus shown a description fitting a RP, not reality. How about we try the whole thing again, but this time answering how we actually do react in these situations. (Those of you who have never seen a merchant mugged in an alley, just click on "Kill them all and loot the bodies.")

:P

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

quote:
Originally written by *i:

So much good, so little evil, pity :cool:
I protest on the grounds that if TM is listed as CG, the test is not measuring reality. I'm sure there are others who have answered as per the instructions and have thus shown a description fitting a RP, not reality. How about we try the whole thing again, but this time answering how we actually do react in these situations. (Those of you who have never seen a merchant mugged in an alley, just click on "Kill them all and loot the bodies.")

:P

As I said in the thread itself, "Good" can be correlated with economic socialism. TM being in the lower left corner of the political compass, it makes sense, too.

(which makes my "True Neutral" even stranger, yep. I guess the scales are shifted.)

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quote:
Originally written by 2600 Hertzballons:

Most of us are chaotic.
Maybe we all just like the butterfly effect. :D
But if "good" corresponds to socialism, then Chaotic Good makes no sense, because if you believe in a socialist system but don't like law and order, then since socialism requires strong government regulation and management, what's your ideal system?

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Anarcho-Communism. It does exist, you know.

I don't think that's what I'd define my own ideal as, though - as the quiz showed, I'm rather neutral on this scale compared to the Political Compass.

[ Monday, April 17, 2006 10:43: Message edited by: Kuranes- ]

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Originally written by Kuranes-:

I don't think that's what I'd define my own ideal as, though - as the quiz showed, I'm rather neutral on this scale compared to the Political Compass.
I don't agree with my test result… in fact, I think I'm pretty much the opposite. XD

(Edit: ……oops. Sorry for the misunderstanding. >>;;; I guess what I meant to say was my test result and my actual political position don't agree with each other.)

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I've alway known I'm chaotic. But by that, I mean "living for the moment", not anarchist.

Evil is used very oddly here. Is capitalism evil? Is Satanism evil? I'm a great supporter of both. I've never known that selfishness = evil. Heck, I know a bunch of upstanding guys who are complete capitalists. They wouldn't do anything for nothing but in many cases they will do things for a reward in the afterlife where there is no proof that this reward will happen.

Human I know is a given. I despise elves and hobbits, can't understand dwarves and gnomes and am generally anti-orc.

Barbarian I can agree with, but not the steriotypical "break first ask questions later" kind, more like the "give me a reason to break and I will" kind.

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quote:
Originally written by Erika Maroonmark:

quote:
Originally written by Kuranes-:

I don't think that's what I'd define my own ideal as, though - as the quiz showed, I'm rather neutral on this scale compared to the Political Compass.
Yeah, I don't agree with mine either. In fact, I think I'm pretty much the opposite. XD

Uh, that's not what I said. I said I agree with my test result, which is neutral both ways, and don't think I am a radical anarcho-communist.

The Political Compass puts me in the lower left corner (reserved for anarcho-communists), but what the PC defines as "neutral" is heavily skewed towards the right. Just see where you end up - even the hardliners on this board usually only end up center-right.

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Another question is what constitutes "selfishness"? If you put your own interests first (like if you win a million dollars and save a lot of it to pay for your or your kids' college education instead of giving all of it to charity, like so many people say they would do in English compositions), then are you selfish or do you just have common sense? And different people support different economic systems for different reasons, some "good" and some "evil"– which, in turn, would tend to depend on each individual's own opinion.

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Originally written by Kuranes-:

The Political Compass puts me in the lower left corner (reserved for anarcho-communists), but what the PC defines as "neutral" is heavily skewed towards the right. Just see where you end up - even the hardliners on this board usually only end up center-right.
Way too much thinking involved in that test.

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quote:
Originally written by Erika Maroonmark:

Another question is what constitutes "selfishness"? If you put your own interests first (like if you win a million dollars and save a lot of it to pay for your or your kids' college education instead of giving all of it to charity, like so many people say they would do in English compositions), then are you selfish or do you just have common sense? And different people support different economic systems for different reasons, some "good" and some "evil"– which, in turn, would tend to depend on each individual's own opinion.
That's binary thinking. There is still a great gap between using the money for your education and giving away most of the rest, and using the money for education and buying yourself a yacht and an SUV with the rest.

Keeping in mind that your education is unlikely to cost more than 200,000 in total even if you went to one of the most prestigious colleges in the world, said "rest" would be a great lot.

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Yeah, I just took it and I was (-1, 2.21), which is actually toward the left. I definitely wasn't expecting that, especially if most of the people here end up on the right. o_O; It might be because there are a lot of questions that I either didn't know about or didn't really have an opinion on.
(But hey, apparently I agree with Schumann! =D)

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Unless I am absolutely sure of a specific charity to give to is going to a good cause, (and welfare I'm absolutely sure isn't,) I'm going with the yacht and SUV.

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EDIT: Dang you Erika for posting at the exact second I hit "add reply". The stupid bords go to the topic and leave my post out.

EDIT2: Stupid UBB!!!!!

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As I said in the other thread, the whole point of a RPG is ROLE-PLAYING. You can't take somebody's favourite type of character and tell them that that is how they are in RL. D&D uses a simplistic system of morality, just so certain spells and effects (Smite Evil, Protection from Chaos, etc.) have a basis for existence.

EDIT: Just read the other thread, where wz.As makes a counter-point. I agree that D&D is a good tool for exploring ideologies. It's just that your ideology might not be the most fun to play.

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Yeah, I wouldn't take the D&D results too literally. It categorized me a lawful while the political compass puts me at:

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62
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quote:
Originally written by Kuranes-:

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The Political Compass puts me in the lower left corner (reserved for anarcho-communists), but what the PC defines as "neutral" is heavily skewed towards the right. Just see where you end up - even the hardliners on this board usually only end up center-right.

Correction: what you define as "neutral" is heavily skewed towards the left. I've just taken that quiz from the point of view of a religiously conservative capitalist and got a 6.6, 7.3 result without even going as extreme as possible. (I wanted to keep answers realistic, so I erred on the side of caution.) I also got 10.00, 0.05 taking the test from point of view of a true free-market liberatarian. (Somebody who thinks that all regulation is inherently evil and people should tend for themselves.)

In both of these experiments I've tried to use only answers I could see coming from some people I know (although not the exact combination of answers from any given person). So just because the spectrum is shifted to the left on these boards and among the college students you interact with doesn't mean that the same shift is true for everybody in the world.

(Yes, I am bored enough to play around with political compass to see how various ideologies would score. :) )

PS Don't try to draw any correlation between RPG scales and Political Compass. Considering that "evil" (especially "chaotic evil") enjoys violence for the sake of violence and will take the more hurtful option whenever given a choice, you'd be hard pressed to find a corresponding RL ideology.

EDIT: Since this turned into Political Compass thread while I was typing the reply, I guess I'll retake it again, with my own point of view.
My result was: -4.38, 0.67.

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quote:
Originally written by Zeviz:

Considering that "evil" (especially "chaotic evil") enjoys violence for the sake of violence and will take the more hurtful option whenever given a choice, you'd be hard pressed to find a corresponding RL ideology.
Hehe. True enough. One might be accused of acting that way, but no such RL movement would get very far.

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Originally written by Erika Maroonmark:

*is officially danged* =)
Danged? If you mean deranged then I agree, otherwise I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:

EDIT: Dang you Erika for posting at the exact second I hit "add reply".
:P
(Although I don't deny that I am also deranged. :D )

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