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Once again, djurx comes through! Alex is now a 1-stop shop!

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Now that the SW ratings are searchable (and viewable alongside CSR and Alex ratings), I'm starting to understand why the community laughs at the SW ratings. Aftershocks (evidently a solid scenario but not a great classic) is rated 4.5. An Apology -- one of the best BoE scenarios of all time -- is rated 4.1. A sampling of scenarios rated higher than An Apology on the SW tables:

Avalon (4.2 by SW, 4.88 by CSR)
Compositus (4.3 by SW, 3.34 by CSR)
Gray Moon: the Hand of Darkness (4.4 by SW, 4.93 by CSR)
The Wreck of the Slug (4.4 by SW, 6.52 by CSR)

And of course, the ever-classic The Realm of the Dragon Knights ties An Apology at 4.1 (where CSR puts it at 4.17).

EDIT: To anyone who doesn't know -- lurkers? newbies? -- the reason this is laughable is that SW's ratings are out of 5, but CSR's are out of 10. An Apology has a 9.5 right now at CSR.

[ Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:26: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I think it'd be interesting to normalize Spiderweb scores (by doubling them) and compare them to Alexandria and Lyceum scores. What the deviation is, etc.

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E-mail me the document that you sent to Brett that had all of the ratings on it, and I'll toss it into a spreadsheet and see what happens. I'm curious, too.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Since you're busy archiving, I went ahead and did a few comparisons.

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Speaks for itself. This is only comparing the surprisingly small intersection of scenarios reviewed at both SW and CSR.

[ Thursday, August 12, 2004 15:33: Message edited by: Andrea ]

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Something I find interesting--Bandit Busywork is rated 4.0 at Spiderweb. It's rated 3.something at CSR, compared to Spiderweb's 8 if a comparable scale is used. Since Bandit Busywork was created by Jeff, I wonder if he just hafhazardly gave it a 4 so he could put it on the solid adventures table. Either that or a bunch of newbies rated it on the basis that it was the only non-default scenario they've ever played. :P

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Following are the ten scenarios most differently rated at SW and CSR. All are rated more highly at SW than CSR.

Grinch, The (-6.61)
Curse of Rentolhm, The
Compositus
Labyrinth
Mairwen's Crystal
Bandit Busywork
Green Meadows
Dragon's Eye
Realm of the Dragon Knights, The
Gray Moon: The Hand of Darkness (-3.87)

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What exactly is the average for the Grinch on the SW tables?

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A whopping 3.9. Only one tenth of a point more than the envied Bandit Busywork. :P Congrats, Vince!

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I could double the SW scores when they're shown, maybe like 4.4(8.8) for example, or something like that. What would make the most sense to someone viewing it? And should it even be done?

I could also create an average score based on the three review #s. Is it worth it?

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Not really, Brett.
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I graphed the average, and the SW scores deviate enough that the curve looks pretty ugly compared to CSR. Not worth it.

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You know, if you graph one of them so it's a smooth curve, of course the other one's going to look jaggy by comparison. You're presupposing that CSR always gets it right. :P

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Right. Alternately, you should try graphing all the Spiderweb scores in order of highest to lowest. Then the CSR line would be the jagged one (even more so, I'd say, than the SW line on the previous graph). Or even better, make a :eek: huge :eek: bar graph with two bars for every scenario, as then it should show the comparasin more accurate. But I'm still going by CSR scores. ;)

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