A way to prevent blood stains?

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AuthorTopic: A way to prevent blood stains?
Gorvin
Apprentice
Member # 4258
 written Monday, April 26 2004 16:09 Profile #0
Hi,

I need a way to make it so a monster does not leave behind a blood stain when it dies (or any other type of stain). The only way around this that I can think of is to have the creature's death state use the erase_creature call, but then the death animation wouldn't play. I've tried using "put_stain_on_space(my_loc_x, my_loc_y, -1);" in its death state to erase the stain, but that doesn't work because the engine calls it immediately before killing the creature rather than after.

Any suggestions on how to get around this?
Thanks.
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Kelandon
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 written Monday, April 26 2004 17:18 Profile Homepage #1
While we're waiting for a better answer...

You could have the monster set an SDF, and then put in the town's START_STATE that if the monster is dead, use the call to erase the blood. You can save its death coordinates in SDFs too, if necessary.

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spyderbytes
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Member # 4180
 written Monday, April 26 2004 17:38 Profile #2
If there's a better answer than that one, I don't know what it would be. Either that or have the DEAD_STATE send a message to a terrain script that breaks out a mop and cleans up any nearby stains.

I don't think you'll find a way to prevent the stain. The best I think you can hope for is to remove it as quickly as possible once it's there.

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wz. As
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 written Monday, April 26 2004 18:02 Profile #3
Hmm... maybe you could try playing around with the species? (listed on page 58 of the appendices) Maybe some will give you different remains. "Other," perhaps?

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Gorvin
Apprentice
Member # 4258
 written Monday, April 26 2004 19:42 Profile #4
quote:
Originally written by wz. arsics:

Hmm... maybe you could try playing around with the species? (listed on page 58 of the appendices) Maybe some will give you different remains. "Other," perhaps?
I've tried testing it with all the different species types, and they all leave behind some kind of "stain", usually blood.

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Originally written by Kelandon:


You could have the monster set an SDF, and then put in the town's START_STATE that if the monster is dead, use the call to erase the blood.
I'll probably use this if I can't figure out a better way. The problem with this is that the blood would stay around until the end of the turn. If possible, I would like to have it removed as soon as it is placed, or stop it from appearing at all, so that the player never sees it.

What I'm trying to do is create a sea monster type enemy that travels through water terrain. I've got it working rather well, except that when it dies the blood spots appearing on top of the water look really out of place.
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The Ripper
Warrior
Member # 4278
 written Monday, April 26 2004 19:50 Profile Homepage #5
maybe the blood is "dissolving" into the water at the end of the turn...

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spyderbytes
Shock Trooper
Member # 4180
 written Monday, April 26 2004 20:00 Profile #6
The method of sending a message to a terrain script should erase the stains at the end of the current turn, rather than at the beginning of the next turn (I'm fairly certain I remember reading that messages are handled at the very end of the current turn). I think that'll get you closer to what you're wanting.

The terrain script can just sit somewhere out of the way... doesn't need to be "on" the terrain where it's needed. When it gets the message to go into action, it can either just cycle through the water squares removing stains, or use the trick of the dying monster recording it's x and y in SDFs so the terrain script knows just where to act.

A bit of a hack, but I think it'd be pretty close to what you're after. The blood will at least dissipate into the water more quickly than waiting for the player's next action.

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Gorvin
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Member # 4258
 written Monday, April 26 2004 22:38 Profile #7
quote:
Originally written by spyderbytes:

The method of sending a message to a terrain script should erase the stains at the end of the current turn, rather than at the beginning of the next turn (I'm fairly certain I remember reading that messages are handled at the very end of the current turn). I think that'll get you closer to what you're wanting.
Ah ha, it worked! The player now only sees the stain for a brief moment after it dies. It's not perfect, but it's close enough. Thanks for the tip.
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