Gotta get outta the Crescent Valley

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AuthorTopic: Gotta get outta the Crescent Valley
Shaper
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I'm right at the end, trying to deliver the doll to the demon dame. I understand it's not necessary to end the game fighting or killing her, but I can't find any way for anything else to happen but my PC's trying to sleep with her and then of course getting slaughtered. I'm a logical guy...can't come up with any likely elements I'm missing at this point. I just want to finish this thing and move on. All I could think of as remotely relevant was to give my PC's resistance potions and see whether that might affect their vulnerability to the succubus, but I doubt this is even possible. I believe I've tried every possible sequence of dialogue. Even more disconcerting, it seems anyone else who has played this thing found a way to end it successfully. I feel really stupid at the moment.

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The check used to determine whether you succumb to the succubus is random and pretty bizarre. As far as I can tell from looking at the script, if you're playing with a singleton your chances of successfully resisting are extremely low, and if you're playing with any other party your chances depend on the way Willpower is distributed among your party. I don't think this is the intended behaviour, but that's how it works.

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In other words, keep trying the same few options, and eventually it will work.

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Shaper
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OK, now I don't feel so stupid. Can't say I'm a big fan of semi-random, non-intuitive solutions like this though. I have a duo...one a fighter with low intelligence, though due to accumulated magical artifacts like the radioactive green plate mail (TM sure is generous!), my fighter has good mental resistance....maybe 50%, and the mage/priest has even more. If the check is expecting a total willpower from four PC's, then it would be hard for two to add up enough. I'll play with it some more and see if victory is forthcoming. Thanks for the quick reply!

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Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00
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It's not exactly to do with the number of PCs. Your chance of passing the check depends on the ratio of the Willpower of the party member with highest Willpower to your party's total Willpower. As I said, this is completely bizarre. But what it boils down to is that you have the best possible chance of success if every party member's Willpower is exactly equal, regardless of how much Willpower they actually have.

Having more party members does improve your chances, though.

[ Wednesday, September 14, 2005 18:45: Message edited by: Strychnine ]

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Shaper
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OK, all done. It took about five aborted attempts of "Would you like the doll?" for the alternate reply to show up...this was with 55% mental resistance and 100% mental resistance from my two PC's.

Oh, and I'm sure glad I kept my alternate weapon to Demonslayer considering Terra isn't too keen on me keeping it on the way out. Kind of a red herring, even putting it in this scenario, doncha think? Though I did experiment with invulnerability potions and killing the succubus and the efreets. She drops some jewelry, but nothing too special or worthwhile, plus you get one of those "You wonder if there was a better way to resolve this" messages aftewards.

On to the Druids of Krell...

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Posts: 2009 | Registered: Monday, September 12 2005 07:00
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Enjoy the scenario. It's better written than CV, I'll say that much. At least, there's less bizarre stuff in it.

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I just killed the succubus. If you do things properly and attack first rather than talking to her, and remember things like Radiant Shield helping a lot against Efreets, you can even do it as a rather low level.
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