the seasons un avernum
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Warrior
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written Monday, May 9 2005 21:14
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while playing a3 for the umpteenth time( i seem to be doing this more than often now), i discovered that the seasons are named beautifully by the team. My favourite is remembrance. Is that autumn? conngrats to the team for thinking the names up. -------------------- he who puts his head inside a dragon's orifice is likely to get a lot of... Posts: 104 | Registered: Saturday, November 6 2004 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, May 10 2005 13:04
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Very true... Jeff did a good job of getting those little details in. Truly enriches the gameplay, and helps you forget the little annoying bits. -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, May 10 2005 17:21
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Leafloss is obviously autumn. I can't remember where Rememberance is in the calendar, so judge it by that. —Alorael, who doubts that there are any perceptible seasons in Avernum. Being underground makes the position of the planet relative to the sun rather insignificant. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, May 10 2005 18:08
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What name did winter have? -------------------- The Knight Between Posts. Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 11 2005 06:49
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According to Silver Harloe's excellent page, here are the months in order (although Rememberance isn't necessarily the first month): Rememberance Suncome Radiane Empire Leafloss Icefall Frost Evermoon With eight months, there are probably two per season. If seasons don't change in the middle of a month, then I'd say Icefall and Frost are the obvious winter months, Evermoon and Rememberance therefore have to be spring, Suncome and Radiane are summer, and Empire and Leafloss are fall. —Alorael, who will add that Leafloss is the only month without any holidays. The fall must be boring in Avernum. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, May 12 2005 22:42
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What and when are the holidays, and what effect do they have. I can only recall 2 or so when I played A3 -------------------- Death is just an engineering problem. Posts: 19 | Registered: Friday, April 29 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, May 13 2005 05:44
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quote:Yeah, you'd think that with a primarily agricultural economy there'd be some harvest-time style holidays. Although, that wouldn't mean much to an adventurer, I suppose. -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, May 13 2005 15:06
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If I were a farmer growing mushrooms and mutant trees underground, I'd be too depressed for holidays too. —Alorael, who supposes that Avernum at least guarantees good weather and even (and perpetual) growing seasons. On the downside, your plowlizards wants to eat you and instead of crows you have rabid giant bats, cave slimes, and other horrors of the deep. Such is life. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, May 14 2005 00:28
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quote:you said it!! lol :D i guess the seasons really dont matter inside avernum; i mean, they cant see the sun anyway... its a tad like living in the poles, i guess. -------------------- he who puts his head inside a dragon's orifice is likely to get a lot of... Posts: 104 | Registered: Saturday, November 6 2004 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, May 15 2005 01:50
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quote:Remembrance makes sense as the first even more if it's the spring; that matches up with the Roman calendar and many others which begin on the vernal equinox. Posts: 316 | Registered: Saturday, May 25 2002 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, May 16 2005 17:39
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(post deleted by Ice Drake) EDIT:deleted [ Monday, May 16, 2005 19:19: Message edited by: Ice Drake ] -------------------- If Skribbane dosn't kill me, canisters will. "You suck." - TM Posts: 156 | Registered: Wednesday, May 11 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, May 16 2005 18:27
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Posting a single word response like that is almost always spam. In this case, because it added nothing to the discussion, it was definitely spam. Please refrain from such posting. —Alorael, who doubts Avernum is much like the poles at all. Extreme northern and southern latitudes get extreme lengths of daylight and night. Avernum is always in a sort of dim but lit state. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, May 16 2005 19:20
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oh ok sorry -------------------- If Skribbane dosn't kill me, canisters will. "You suck." - TM Posts: 156 | Registered: Wednesday, May 11 2005 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, May 17 2005 05:51
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Ice Drake, no need to post such a short response... you don't have to post whatever comes into your head. Still, it's encouraging to see that you're learning. You've got to wonder how the Triad managed to get so much of the caves lit... and if they had that much power, why not try to light the farms better (and grow something other than mushrooms)? Also, why doesn't Avernum's messed up day/night cycle (or lack thereof) interfere with the Avernites more? -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Tuesday, May 17 2005 07:19
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Well, it sort of explains why no one ever goes home to sleep. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, May 17 2005 13:30
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I doubt they could survive on mushrooms any way. What value do they provide? -------------------- The Knight Between Posts. Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, May 17 2005 13:48
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They don't eat only mushrooms. They eat lizard meat and bread as well. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, but they could eat the lizard's eggs as well, and perhaps cave cow milk. Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, May 17 2005 18:03
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The mushrooms were magically altered to be able to sustain the humans living in Avernum. I believe Patrick was involved in that. —Alorael, who also is sure that there's some edible cave tree, cave shrub, or cave annual. Not all the cave plants can be producers of low quality wood alone. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, May 18 2005 02:47
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I believe it's mentioned at some point that the glowing fungus that lights the caves wasn't created by the mages, but existed back when the first exiles were sent down (possibly created by Vahnatai, although this is never explicitly stated). At least, this was the case in the Exile series; not sure if it was changed for Avernum. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 18 2005 05:57
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Were the crop fungi also premade? I definitely recall some references to the powerful mages having a hand in their creation from A1. —Alorael, who should load an old save and go bother Patrick himself. He is almost positive that Patrick is the one who talks about all that. Either him or some other old coot in the Tower of Magi. Or maybe Rone. Actually, Avernum is full of coots. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Wednesday, May 18 2005 06:22
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You know, Erika takes credit for making the fungus glow, but someone else (I forget who) says that the fungus was already glowing before they got there. Erika may just be an egomaniac, or possibly she did some work at the Tower of Magi that enhanced the glowing effect — the message upon entering the Tower's botanical room indicates that the mages were responsible for significant crop modification. I think I have all this written down somewhere. EDIT: Ah. Specifically, Erika in A1 says, "These passages wouldn't even be lit if I hadn't created the fungi that emit light, and I don't even get credit! And don't get me started on the mushrooms!" She adds, "The mushrooms down here? That are edible, nourishing, and grow with only the slightest light? I created them!" However, Solberg says, "It was [Erika] that created the strain of mushrooms that grow quickly and are so nourishing, and other special plants as well," and adds, "Erika created the trees that grow in stone, so we could have a meager supply of wood. She summoned down several plants from above, and changed them so they'd grow down here. The one thing she didn't make was the glowing fungus on the cave ceilings. It's amazing, magical stuff, and was already here when the Empire found these caves." [ Wednesday, May 18, 2005 06:24: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 18 2005 16:19
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Strange that Erika would take credit for the one thing she didn't do. Who's more senile, Erika or Solberg? —Alorael, who would actually chalk that one up to a Jeff mistake. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Thursday, May 19 2005 04:36
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I don't think so, Alo. Erika is noticeably arrogant. She's obviously trying to take credit for something she didn't do because it makes her seem more powerful. -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, May 19 2005 06:04
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I can understand why Erika brags about being responsible for the survival of all humans in Avernum. She's that kind of person. What I don't understand is why she would brag about the plants she didn't make when the ones she did make are every bit as impressive. Unless she views lies as preferable to truth, which is a stretch even for Erika, her boast makes no sense at all. —Alorael, who would be more impressed with nutritious fungus than glowing fungus anyway. Wizards have a history of making things glow in Exile/Avernum. Light and Long Light, glowstones, flashy runes, and the like are all illuminated. Wizards usually don't make things that people eat. (Priests do, though. Thank the gods for manna!) Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, May 21 2005 00:52
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erika seems genuine enough in A3, yet sometimes I wonder whether she DID encourage the vahnatai... I mean, rentar could have died in the end in erika's hand... yet she does not. Erika sometimes charges on the adventurers without provocation(in the endgame and though she gets killed, even that is an illusion, i think. (sorry kelandon, if you feel this note is unneccesary but i had to say this coz i cannot help suspecting erika) ;) -------------------- he who puts his head inside a dragon's orifice is likely to get a lot of... Posts: 104 | Registered: Saturday, November 6 2004 08:00 |
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